I do agree that if your goal is to completely eradicate software piracy, then yeah you're just gonna be wasting your time. But I also believe that we should make every effort to make it more difficult for lazy idiots to crack programs. If we make it difficult enough it's going to seriously cut down on the number of people who'll be willing to resort to it as a method of getting software. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Feir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop
> That's like saying that people will break into your house whether you like > it or not so there's no use fighting it. Do you honestly think we > shouldn't > at least make it harder for people to commit criminal acts? Perhaps, I > should just carry my credit card in a pocket instead of more securely in > my > wallet. Guess I don't really need to try to be responsable about keeping > my > credit card number safe if people will just steal it anyhow. Think about > it. > It has always been the case that people are expected to take reasonable > precautions to protect themselves. The police are certainly there when > they're needed but that's no excuse for utter stupidity. Persoanally, I'll > always favour buying games where I get a registration key which will work > on > any machine. I have two computers in normal circumstances and don't see > why > I should shell out the bucks or have to wait for a replacement key if a > hard > drive crashes or something. I already bought the game. However, I can > certainly understand the logic of the argument for these hardware based > keys > given current conditions. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Product Security was Keys for my laptop > > >> Hi, >> I agree with Draconis. What I've seen is a Troopanum2 crack, yes. And is >> it hardware-based? I believe it was. I didn't use it, just... Gained >> information from jerks who pirate stuff. >> >> And Liam, there's stuff going around... My point is that I agree with you >> totally >> about hardware keys, don't use them! Pirates will g"et your game wether >> you like it or hate it, so there's no use in fighting it. >> >> >> On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:19:29 -0800, Draconis Entertainment wrote: >>> >>>The recent trend away from DRM in music downloads is a great >>>illustration. The fact of the matter is simple. Is the loss of sales >>>from pirates worth severely inconveniencing your loyal and dedicated >>>customers? In the end, you are troubling far more of the honest folks >>>than you are stopping dishonest ones. The music industry is learning >>>the hard way. We believe that in producing keys the way we have, >>>we're bolstering loyalty in our customers. We applaud Apple for the >>>lack of activation required in the Mac OS X operating system, and >>>their dedication to DRM-free music. Other music download sites are >>>following suit. It is, for all the reasons above, and all of TOm's >>>reasons below, the right thing to do. >>> >>> >>>Draconis Entertainment >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>Draconis Entertainment >>>"Feel the power...wield the magic..." >>>http://www.DraconisEntertainment.com >>>http://www.DracoEnt.com >>> >>> >>> >>>On 20 Dec, 2007, at 6:36 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: >>> >>>>Hello Che, >>>>Yes, XHEO is a very secure licensing library and product security >>>>system, but unfortunately I was unable to buy it before releasing >>>>Monte >>>>do to a lack of cash. I'm still thinking of buying it for future >>>>games, >>>>but I also know what customers have to put up with when using hardware >>>>based keys. >>>>For example, I have three computers in my house. I'd like to buy a >>>>game >>>>and install it on all of them. If it is hardware locked i either >>>>have to >>>>request new keys for each one or buy a copy for each computer which >>>>really isn't that fair or worth it. >>>>Also there is the issue about the developers ability to continue to >>>>give >>>>out new keys. Let's say i buy a game from developer x, he works alone, >>>>he gets seriously hurt in a car crash. i need a new key for reason x, >>>>but since the guy is in the hospital or maybe even dead I can't ever >>>>install that game again. That isn't exactly fair either, but the >>>>developer chose that root because some jerks were pirating his games, >>>>and the inocent customers have to pay the price. >>>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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