james. let me make a suggestion. if people discuss this, you might want to be more proactive in takign care of this. it will give you a bad name, and I don't want to see anyone get a bad name especially if they didn't do it on purpose.
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day > Come on now, that's just unfare, I created a list for software downloads > because a lot of people asked me too, and as is stated in the guidelines > of > my list, if people share pirated software, that's their own doing, not > mine! > I do not agree with software piracy, especially game pirating. I love > audio > games, so why would I use pirated copies of them? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:47 PM > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day > >> Well said, except James Scholes created a list for everything piracy. So, >> yeah. >> Well said Thom. , if you need more info about this list I could supply >> it. >> Email me offlist >> though. >> >> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:38:30 -0000, James Scholes wrote: >> >> >>>Well said, Thomas! >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------- >>>From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM >>>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day >>> >>>>Hi Liam and all, >>>>I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some >>>>explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you >>>>need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate. >>>>A few years ago, back in my late teens and early 20's, I use to heavily >>>>be into the cracking and software piracy thing before I decided to go >>>>clean. Usually what it boiled down to was a self-righteous attitude >>>>like, "why should I pay for something if I know where to get it for >>>>free?" >>>>On one hand I knew steeling was wrong. I would have never walked into a >>>>Wal-Mart, Best Buy, or some place like that and stole a music cd, >>>>software cd, or dvd movie off the shelf. I saw that as steeling and >>>>criminal behavior. >>>>On the other hand I saw nothing wrong with copying something. It is hard >>>>to explain, but I had a thousand excuses why copying, pirating, was not >>>>wrong. So and so was willing to give me a free copy, why pay for it if I >>>>can get it for free, it is only a copy not stolen,etc. It never crossed >>>>my mind weather I copied that music or software cd or stole it outright >>>>from the store someone lost money from my piracy. >>>>Bottom line at that time in my life copying or pirating something simply >>>>did not bother my conscience. I can remember at college there were a >>>>group of us tech types that passed around pirated software like it was >>>>candy or bubble gum cards. When one of us got a copy of say MS Office we >>>>would zip the cd and put it on Res Net. When Windows 98 came out whoever >>>>got a copy burned copies for everyone else, or put it on Res Net for >>>>download. We didn't think anything about it. It was just something we >>>>did. >>>>Around 5 years ago I began attending church, and I started to reexamine >>>>not only my life, but the way I viewed things. I concluded after a while >>>>that weather I copied software or stole it directly from Best Buy, >>>>Wal-Mart, or somewhere else it was still steeling. It took me a long >>>>time during my baptismal classes to come to terms with that fact.I also >>>>had to figure out why I refused to accept copying software and music was >>>>wrong. You want to know why I copied software and music without a >>>>conscience? >>>>Well, the answer comes down to some very basic human desires. The human >>>>heart and mind is greedy. I wanted that software, music, etc but I >>>>didn't want to pay for it. If I paid for it that was money I couldn't >>>>use for something else I wanted. I wanted everything, but I didn't want >>>>to pay for it all. I actually couldn't pay for it all so I decided to >>>>steel it, and then sweep it under the mental rug out of view of my >>>>conscience. Then, excuse it by saying something like, "copying software >>>>isn't like armed robbery." >>>>In my own personal experience the only cure for piracy is a conscience. >>>>Weather the person is a Christian or not they need to believe that >>>>piracy is wrong. They need to recognize there greed, and hold themselves >>>>accountable for that greed. They need to let go of their desires for >>>>material things, and look for non-material things in life such as love, >>>>friendship, happy memories, etc. To value the things in life that are >>>>truly worth while, and can bring true joy. >>>>Liam, I'd just like to say that the piracy and cracking of your games >>>>has nothing to do with what you did or did not do. The people steeling >>>>your games are simply selfish, greedy, unsympathetic, and unsatisfied >>>>pinheads with no conscience. I sincerely doubt they even know themselves >>>>why they are driven to steel, pirate, and copy. I sure didn't back in my >>>>bad old cracking days. >>>>Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> >>>>--- >>>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>>list, >>>>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>>--- >>>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>list, >>>please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. 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