Thanks Dark,
Unfortunately, I don't have a Braille Display so was just relying on cursor
movement commands. So far, I have done reasonably well, but it is really
interesting to hear how others play.
Thanks for the note about Angband.
Jeremy
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From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Playing Nethack,either the DOS or Windows Version
with Jaws, any tips?
Hi Jeremy.
I've personally never had much luck with ascii games at all, ---- owing to
my lack of a braille display.
I have however been very impressed with Angband found at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angband_(video_game) for some great in built
access features, such as ability to get a list of all on screen monsters
and objects, ability to have a moveable curser which works like a curser
in a screen reader and can flip betwene interesting objects and monsters
on screen, --- and the character of course.
I'd be very interested to know if these features existed in Nethack, ----
sinse other than the highlighter curser, I couldn't find anything, which
has been another contributing factor to me having difficulties with the
game.
Currently I play angband with a combination of my remaining site, an easy
visibility graphical tile set, hal, and these access features, ---- but I
have been in discussion with the developer about adding more access
features to the game to allow it to be playable entirely by commands
alone.
Such features I've suggested include a directional look command, and a
basic distance factor expressed as coordinates to tell you the distance
betwene your character and the object highlighted by Anband's highlight
box.
Hopefully we'll see these in a future release of Angband, ---- and in the
mean time, sinse Angband does I believe just use the standard ascii, ----
I'd recommend it to people who might ahve braille displays due to it's
great access features.
Oh btw, if Angband can have these features added, they could also be added
into angband innumerable varients, ---- some of which are full rpg games
with quests, many environments etc, ---- which could then be accessible
too.
All the best,
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Hartley" <jeremyhart...@comcast.net>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 12:45 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Playing Nethack,either the DOS or Windows Version with
Jaws, any tips?
Hello folks,
With all the testing and playing I have been doing with Entombed
recently, I thought it would be fun to check out some of the "Rogue-like"
games out there. I am referring to NetHack in this message.
I downloaded the DOS and Windows versions from Nethack.org. I know that
Michael has written an access.nh file which should be copied to the
defaults.nh file if one is playing the DOS version. I did also see that
there is no equivalent access file for the windows port, but after
looking at the various settings, I am sure that the same changes can be
made.
I decided to give the DOS version a go. I realize from other discussions
on this list that some listers have problems running programs in DOS
windows. Some of you have complained about the slowness in which a DOS
program runs on things like windows xp. I am happy to say, I somehow
don't have that problem, and I am able to play EamonDX and Fallthru
without any real lag of time, and use Jaws version 10 or 11 for reading
the screen in the DOS window.
Ok, now onto my question for some of you real experienced NetHack players
out there. Other than turning all punctuation on, and using the main
jaws cursor commands, are there any other configurations I need to make?
I am still getting used to what all those ascii symbols on the screen
stand for, and have been using the slash command and reading the manual
as much as I can.
I'm pretty sure that it will just take some stumbling around, but I
figured I would consult with any experienced netHack player, to see if
they found other settings that worked better than those in the access.nh
file, or other useful Jaws commands
If nobody has anything else to add, then I will just keep on poking
around here and see how far I get. grin
Jeremy Hartley
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