You're right Tomas, thanks for that I was outraged before about the prices! I wasn't going to pay 32£ odds for a voice which I can easilly access through Jaws. As I see it companies take advantage of their customers, if we buy a product we pay the money therefore it should be up to us what we do with it. On the other hand Microsoft should be giving out better Sappi voices, because even Microsoft Mary is starting to get on my nerves! I know they have a new Anna voice with windows 7, but I don't know if upgrading would do me any good, for example will it mess up my windows xp interface, start menus etc. For another will my audio games be harmed in any way? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Scansoft voices


Hi,
I'd highly recommend that you don't buy the Scansoft Real Speak voices
from Nextup.com and here is why.
As I understand it a while backNuance, the company that owns Scansoft,
has changed the way it licences its Real Speak voices.  Under the new
licensing scheme the products must be purchased by a company and then
locked specifically to that product. In other words if you buy
Scansoft Karen, Tom, whatever  from Nextup.com those will only work
with Nextup.com's products such as Text Aloud, Weather Aloud, and News
Aloud. You can not  turn around and use it with Window-Eyes, Jaws, or
your favorite game by Jim Kitchen, because they are no longer,
strictly speaking, Sapi voices. They must be accessed using a specific
product, and only that specific product through a special license.
So if you want to use Scansoft Tom, Daniel, Karen, etc  with Jaws 11
you must license the voice through Freedom Scientific for Jaws. If you
want to use those voices with Text Aloud you have to turn around and
license a copy of those voices through Nextup.com specifically for
that product.  In short, those voices are going to cost you dearly to
have, and I am vvery glad that I managed to purchase those voices when
Jaws 8 and Openbook 8 came out when they were still Sapi voices and
not under the new more restrictive license.
I hate to say it, but at this point I don't know of any legal way to
get the older Sapi 5 voices without resorting to outright piracy, and
it seams to me to be the logical result of this kind of radical, money
grabbing, greedy, unfair change in licensing. Normally I don't
advocate software piracy, but when a company makes this kind of
idiotic polacy I don't feel a bit sorry if it happens to them.  It is
one thing to charge once for a product that you can use with most of
your software, but quite another when the license basically forces you
to purchase a copy for each and every product you intend to use it
with. This is criminal in my book, and the company does not deserve
any mor of our business until they shape up and change their polacy.
I could be wrong about all this, but it seams odd to me that the
Scansoft and Nuance web sites no longer have the Real Speak voices for
sale on their web site like the use to. When I check Nextup.com they
say right on the web site that these voices will only work with
Nextup.com products.  Go to Freedom Scientific, guess what, all of the
new Scansoft voice downloads only work with Jaws and not anything
else. So what is really going on here?


On 5/12/10, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote:
The only place I know of is www.nextup.com.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
of aaaaggh.

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