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-----Mensagem original----- De: Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> Para: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org> Data: Segunda, 27 de Dezembro de 2010 17:03 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] BGT / Gamepad support? Hi Bryan, Yeah, that's just non-sense. I think a lot of VI gamers forget the fact before Doom was released in 1993 there wasn't such a thing as First Person Shooters. Before that most mainstream games were all side-scrollers. Even though they were side-scrollers there were some serious diferences in the games. You had your walk along beat-m-up side-scrollers like Double Dragon, Ninja Turtles, and Legend of Kage. You had your puzzle and maze oriented side-scrollers like Montezuma's Revenge. You had your blast-m-all games like Super Contra. No matter what nobody confused say Mario Brothers with Megaman. Even though they were both side-scrollers the game play, story, and everything else was fairly different. Why then should side-scrollers stop being produced just because a half-a-dozen accessible games were released in that format? The mainstream market created hundreds of side-scrollers for more than a decade, and only fell out of fassion once Doom, Quake, and the other FPS and Third Person type of games became more popular with mainstream gamers. It certainly wasn't because side-scrollers were boring or uninteresting. Games like Megaman, Castlevania, and Mario were huge sellers, and still are big names in the industry. IN fact, there is a new Mario Brothers game coming out for the Nintendo DS. No, what happened is games like Doom, Quake, and other games like it became so popular that mainstream game developers saw a way to improve sales etc and started creating several games like it. What you might call the way of the future, a way to be innovative, and break out of the mold of the 2d side-scroller that they had been creating for a good dozen years or so. However, for us it is a largely untapped style of game, and have gotten nowhere near reaching the limit. On 12/27/10, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote: > Well I definitely hope to do my share of side scrollers since unlike some > people I don't feel that now that the genre has been slightly tapped into we > can abandon it altogether. And I have heard comments like that, to the > effect that now that we have Super Liam, MOTA, Tarzan Junior, Q9 and now > Battle Zone there are enough side scrollers out there. > We are the Knights who saaaaay...Ni! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BGT / Gamepad support? > > >> Hi Bryan, >> >> Oh, I'm pretty certain you could create something like TDV with the >> BGT Engine. You need to remember that BGT's primary roll is to handle >> the low-level end of game programming like input, audio, speech, >> networking, etc wrapped by a powerful scripting language. Beyond that >> what you create with BGT is completely up to you. If you want to crank >> out a 2d side-scroller like MOTA that is easy enough with BGT. >> However, you could create TDV and other games like it just as well. It >> really comes down to personal skill and how much money you have to >> spend on acting, music, and sounds. >> >> On 12/27/10, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> wrote: >>> That would come in handy, especially for a game like TDV. I wonder if BGT >>> will ever be able to develop something like that. Then again, considering >>> the types of games that have already been developed using it I'm not >>> unhopeful. >>> We are the Knights who saaaaay...Ni! >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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