ah, you poor guy!  you don't know what soul calibur is?
Although i haven't played it yet... :(
anyways, its a fighting game for consoles, 2 and 3 are for ps2 xbox
and gamecube i think, 4 and eventually 5 are for ps3 and xbox360 i
believe.


On 12/13/11, Connor Moser <[email protected]> wrote:
> just to ask. what is soul calibur. is it axesable? is it for the pc? is it
> free?
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>>   3. Re:  plans for an updated Lone Wolf (Thomas Ward)
>>   4. Re:  plans for an updated Lone Wolf (Thomas Ward)
>>   5. Re:  plans for an updated Lone Wolf (Dallas O'Brien)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:41:57 -0800
>> From: "Clement Chou" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>, "Gamers Discussion list"
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>> Subject: [Audyssey] a bit more soul calibur info
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>> No vids this time, just some facts that some people may not have about the
>>
>> gameplay system. The three biggest things to point out are probably, the
>> just guard, brave edge, and critical edge. Just guard is basically a perry
>>
>> maneuver. When you tap the guard button and let it go, you'll have a few
>> frames during which if an opponent hits you with an attack, you will
>> automatically perry their attack and will be able to punish them while
>> they're recoverying. Brave edge is basically a powered up version of a
>> normal move. If you compare the SF games with this, the SF games have
>> special and ex-specials. In SC, you don't really have special moves...
>> instead you have a series of normal attacks that can be increased in power
>>
>> and have certain properties. A critical edge is the SC equivalent to a
>> super move. The command for the critical edge is the same for everyone,
>> but unlike 2d games you can't just throw them out and hope they connect...
>>
>> you have to combo into them. Because if you perform one and miss, you're
>> in big, big trouble. Aside from these three things, the rest of the
>> gameplay is more or less the same, just without the critical finisher, and
>>
>> the speed is faster. Hope this little snippet was somewhat informative!
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:45:20 -0500
>> From: Thomas Ward <[email protected]>
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Well, that's where Ebay and places like that come in handy. I've seen
>> old Pentium 133 computers with Windows 95 on them for like $15. You
>> could purchase the computer or find someone on there selling Windows
>> 95 separately on the cheep and install it in a virtual machine. That's
>> really the only solution for hanging on to software that is that old.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/11, Michael Gauler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yea...
>>> But what do you do about the classic games?
>>> Surely, there are still many people in the world who want to use the old
>>> games.
>>> But running an outdated operating system like Windows 95 or older on
>>> modern
>>> PCs isn't an option when the os doesn't get along with your hardware due
>>> to
>>> a lack of drivers...
>>> And you might want to use a virtual machine, but then is the question
>>> where
>>> to get that old operating system you need legally.
>>> Good if you still have installation media, but what if not?
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:56:46 -0500
>> From: Thomas Ward <[email protected]>
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
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>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> That is true. Technically the DirectX end user license forbids
>> installing the components separately out side of the official
>> Microsoft installer, and of course dx7vb.dll and dx8vb.dll do not ship
>> with newer DirectX runtime distributions. From a legal standpoint its
>> a lose-lose situation.
>>
>> However, several people like Jim Kitchen, GMA, etc install those
>> libraries anyway, and I don't see it as a very big crime.  No one has
>> ever been asked to remove it from their installers and Microsoft
>> hasn't given anyone grief over it. So while it might technically be
>> illegal Microsoft isn't actively hunting people down and making them
>> stop either.
>>
>> So as an end  user I wouldn't worry too much about it. As you already
>> know we can install the missing Visual Basic runtime libraries and
>> they are still compatible with Windows 7 code. This is, I think, a
>> testament to how  backwards compatible Windows really is.  If you are
>> worried about legal issues this is a classic case of "don't ask don't
>> tell."
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/11, Michael Gauler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> I don't want to judge anyone.
>>> But there is a difference here.
>>> Fine if MS wants to remove VB 6 support. It is a developer's job to do
>>> something about a programs compatibility.
>>> But what should someone do as an end user?
>>> It is not my fault if a program screams about missing DLLs...
>>> OK, I can download the VB 6 runtime if I need to run a VB 6 file.
>>> But isn't part of current  DirectX end user license specifically
>>> forbidding
>>> you to manually install DX7VB.DLL or DX8VB.DLL into your current
>>> operating
>>> systems and/or their DirectX (DX 10 or DX 11)?
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:10:16 -0500
>> From: Thomas Ward <[email protected]>
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
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>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Sorry, but you are out of luck. I've seen the Windows 8 beta and the
>> ribbons are a standard part of the Windows 8 user interface.For
>> instance, if you open up Windows Explorer you are now greeted with a
>> nice ribbon across the top of the screen instead of the typical menu
>> bar. Plus all the other major free applications like Internet
>> Explorer, Windows Mail, Media Player, etc all use ribbons now. Its
>> pretty much a case of learn to roll with the change or stick with XP
>> until your PC dies of old age. Then, of course, sooner or later you'll
>> have to invest in a new PC to replace the old one and end up having to
>> get use to the changes anyway. I don't really see any realistic way
>> around it unless you decide to go Mac, Linux, or adopt some other
>> operating system other than Windows.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> If the ribbons are going to be removed, and if the traditional menus that
>>> are accessible to everyone return, that feature alone might make me want
>>> to
>>> switch.
>>>
>>> ---
>>> "Security is not the absence of danger.  It is the presence of the Lord."
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:20:54 +1000
>> From: Dallas O'Brien <[email protected]>
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>
>> haven't yet been able to test the xp mode out, even though i have pro on
>> my toshiba, i have yet to download the virtual machine and xp image.
>> they don't actually come with it, you have to download them. but yes,
>> the support is definatly there.
>> dallas
>>
>>
>> On 13/12/2011 15:35, Thomas Ward wrote:
>>> Hi Dark,
>>>
>>> Actually, this already exists. I don't know if you know this but
>>> Windows 7 Professional and Windows 7 Ultimate come with a licensed
>>> Windows XP virtual machine complete with the VB 6 runtime libraries
>>> and the whole nine yards. Granted you have to pay extra for Windows XP
>>> backwards compatibility, but to say Microsoft doesn't already do this
>>> is false. Microsoft knows companies and gamers can't necessarily run
>>> all their older software on Windows 7 Starter and Windows 7 Home so
>>> they've included a Windows XP virtual machine into the Professional
>>> and Ultimate versions of the opperating system. So Microsoft is aware
>>> of the issue, and offer the very feature you mentioned below in their
>>> pro and ultimate versions of Windows 7. Its not a compatibility pack,
>>> but a licensed copy of Windows XP that is installed inside Windows 7
>>> Ultimate so you get the best of both worlds on the same dvd.
>>>
>>> This is precisely why I feel you guys are giving Microsoft a bad wrap
>>> here. Microsoft is doing the best they can to maintain long term
>>> backwards compatibility and the way they have done it in Windows 7 is
>>> by using a virtual machine they created specifically for Windows XP
>>> applications. I suppose the only reason most people are unaware of it
>>> is that most PCs from HP, Compaq, Toshiba, Del, etc all come with
>>> Windows 7 Home Premium, and you need Windows Ultimate to get all of
>>> the applications and extras for Windows 7 Microsoft has to offer
>>> including a licensed copy of XP for the Windows 7 virtual machine. I
>>> really recommend doing a bit of research about this topic as I think
>>> you just opened your mouth and inserted your foot on that one.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/11, dark<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> Hi Alex.
>>>>
>>>> But if microsoft care so much about customers, why don't they have any
>>>> options to extend backwards compatibility of products? for instance a
>>>> licenced microsoft virtual machine?
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, the reason they had to extend xp support is simply because
>>>> vista
>>>> was buggy as heck for several years and thus new xp machines were being
>>>> bought as late as 2010. If microsoft had dropped support for what the
>>>> majority of users use, people would go over to mac or other os and
>>>> they'd
>>>> lose sales.
>>>>
>>>> I don't really understand this business about "technology moves move
>>>> with
>>>> it"
>>>>
>>>> I repeat, I have my snes, which is now close to 20 years old. I keep it
>>>> because I like the games on it.
>>>>
>>>> The fact that something is "new technology" has no real applicability to
>>>> myself or probably to several other people as well if it doesn't
>>>> actually
>>>> let us do the things we want.
>>>>
>>>> A computer is afterall just a tool.
>>>>
>>>> Beware the grue!
>>>>
>>>> Dark.
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:23:40 +1000
>> From: Dallas O'Brien <[email protected]>
>> To: Gamers Discussion list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] plans for an updated Lone Wolf
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> bare in mind, that the developer windows 8 isn't exactly how its going
>> to look at final production. so they may well remove those before the
>> full version comes out. but never the less, they are looking in to
>> getting rid of it at some point. if not in 8, then the next version
>> perhaps
>> dallas
>>
>>
>> On 13/12/2011 16:10, Thomas Ward wrote:
>>> Hi Charles,
>>>
>>> Sorry, but you are out of luck. I've seen the Windows 8 beta and the
>>> ribbons are a standard part of the Windows 8 user interface.For
>>> instance, if you open up Windows Explorer you are now greeted with a
>>> nice ribbon across the top of the screen instead of the typical menu
>>> bar. Plus all the other major free applications like Internet
>>> Explorer, Windows Mail, Media Player, etc all use ribbons now. Its
>>> pretty much a case of learn to roll with the change or stick with XP
>>> until your PC dies of old age. Then, of course, sooner or later you'll
>>> have to invest in a new PC to replace the old one and end up having to
>>> get use to the changes anyway. I don't really see any realistic way
>>> around it unless you decide to go Mac, Linux, or adopt some other
>>> operating system other than Windows.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/11, Charles Rivard<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>> If the ribbons are going to be removed, and if the traditional menus
>>>> that
>>>> are accessible to everyone return, that feature alone might make me want
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> switch.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> "Security is not the absence of danger.  It is the presence of the
>>>> Lord."
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