Joseph, this thread emerged from Michael's post concerning his interaction
with a developer, from which many folk have drawn the idea that his careless
construction of messages possibly contributed to the negative aspect of that
interaction. It is entirely appropriate to comment specifically on that
aspect of his post, since we all have an interest in having developers not
already in the know about our community take us seriously. You have seen
the comments of more than one sighted developer about how discouraging such
things are initially. To their credit and our gain, they overcame that
discouragement and have gone on to provide us with some games.
By the way, for clarity, that should have read y'all's, the possessive,
rather than a bastardized, non-standard plural that happens also to screw up
screen readers. And your deliberate error is amusing, and telling.
Don't like my commentary, then go elsewhere.
Chris Bartlett
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Joseph Weaver
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 10:21 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?
You guys need to quit targeting michael and get off your high horses, it
seems like you only discuss this issue after his posts, I don't have any
trouble understanding them. Y'alls problem is that you love to complain to
much, now of you don't understand maybe next time he should speak in first
grade terms an really slow for you.
(NWA) no winning aloud, if you don't like the grammar get over it.
Ps. That word is misspelled.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 17, 2011, at 6:34 PM, MissWings <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I for one agree with adding the guideline about proofreading posts before
sending them to the list, because good communication skills are important,
especially for us when we're dealing with sighted people. I'll admit I
never actually read a post of mine, but I'm also a very good speller and
know how to punctuate things well, so grammar and spelling aren't as much of
an issue for me. I say include the guideline though, and if someone doesn't
like it, it's their loss. The guideline would only be used to help people,
not as a criticism, in my opinion.
>
> Jessica
>
> At 08:49 AM 12/17/2011, you wrote:
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> Yes, you definitely raise some very good points in your message. As
>> you pointed out the biggest problem in communicating with sighted
>> developers and the public at large is ignorance on their part. Most
>> sighted people have never met a blind person before, and even if they
>> have there is no way of knowing what their experience was if any. Its
>> our job to correct their impressions through by educating them a step
>> at a time, and to do it in a way that makes us look like intelligent,
>> competent, and mature individuals who have something worthwhile to say
>> about their products and services.
>>
>> Its for that reason every time I see a poorly written message on
>> Audyssey or some other access list I inwardly cringe. I can't tell you
>> how many blind individuals just shoot off a message filled with poor
>> grammar, lack of proper punctuation, and spelling errors. Like it or
>> not if a sighted person reads those messages we will be judged one and
>> all as not very intelligent, as lacking communication skills, etc.
>> Bottom line, if we want the mainstream public's respect we have to
>> work for it, and not forgo proper language and writing skills for
>> convenience sake.
>>
>> Here at Audyssey we considered adding proofreading to the list
>> guidelines to improve the quality and clarity of the posts.
>> Unfortunately, there were some individuals that took serious offense
>> to that, and felt that the moderators were going too far. All I can
>> draw from their reaction is they don't care about being taken
>> seriously and want the rest of the sighted world to view us
>> negatively, because that's exactly what will happen if they send a
>> poorly written message to a person or company who has no experience
>> with the blind. In short, good communication skills will go a long
>> ways to bridging the gap between the blind and sighted communities.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
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