Hi Shaun, Very true. However, there is a big difference between how Linux and Windows handles user management and security. Linux security is less of a hassle from a user perspective simply because it has always been there from day one, and because of that all or most programs automatically save personal and custom data to your home directory. With Windows you use to be able to save personal data anywhere and everywhere you wanted and now that UAC is here both users and programs find it a hassle because all those non-UAC compliant apps have to be rewritten and updated to work with UAC.
As to your issue of performence hard to say. I've not noticed any performence issues with UAC enabled, but it wouldn't suprise me if it does use some of your system resources. The reason is that UAC is a system service that is always running in the background as a watchdog service. On other operating systems such as Linux sudo is launched manually if and when an admin task or program needs to be performed. Otherwise its not running in the background the way UAC is. Cheers! On 3/10/12, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote: > Its one reason I liked linux security tom. > There shouldn't be any reason you need to change anything, most stuff > in linux doesn't even need security unless its system spaciffic. > Windows on the other hand wants uac for everything thats not sertified. > I have a couple systems, one with uac and one without. > The one without ran much faster so there definately is a performance > lag of some note. > I guess one system was a dulecore the other a quad so maybe that was > the problem. > But the point is, without uac the stuff ran faster. > However one major advantage of uac is you can lock programs to a user > account. > So all my games, and everything could be locked to my user account. > Everyone else that got the system on would just see office and some > other generic stuff I allowed access to normal users. > Ofcause I have no idea what I'd do, even with search which I can kill > if I care to. > I have 2 systems, both are not mine and I don't care what they are > set at as every app is for the whole box anyway. > At 04:34 a.m. 10/03/2012 -0500, you wrote: >>Hi Dark, >> >>Well, I can answer that one. Microsoft's User Account Control, UAC, is >>a security system which is there to prevent users and applications >>from modifying secured files, folder, and programs without an admin >>level user name and password. This is similar to the program sudo >>found on Linux that performs essentually the same functionality. As a >>result the idea here is to prevent hackers, trojans, viruses, and >>worms from accessing restricted areas of the operating system. >>Generally it is a good idea to use UAC for that additional layer of >>security, but unfortunately not everything written for Windows is UAC >>compliant. >> >>For example, if you download one of Jim Kitchens games, say Football, >>it will save all the season standings, settings, etc to data files in >>the Kitchensinc folder. Well, because Microsoft was extremely lax on >>security issues on 9t5, 98, Millennium, XP, etc it was perfectly ok to >>do that. So we can't blame developers like Jim for saving data to the >>installation directory because it was the easiest thing to do. >> >>However, with Vista and now Windows 7 Microsoft decided to get >>security conscious and have created User Account Control similar to >>sudo on Linux to prevent programs from accessing various secured areas >>on the hard drive including Program Files and Program Files (x86) >>which unfortunately is where many games save their data to. With UAC >>enabled Windows 7 assumes the game is attempting to illegally access >>said directories and sometimes said program crashes because its being >>blocked by UAC. One of the best ways to fix said problems is to turn >>off UAC, but in doing so you end up removing that extra layer of >>security in the process. What I do instead is right click on the >>program's icon select admin, and press enter. This launches the app as >>administrator and I can leave UAC on so that I get both the security >>as well as play older games that haven't been updated with UAC >>compatibility. >> >>I think most people tell end users to turn UAC off simply because they >>don't know how to get around it. There are several ways to set up an >>app and make it coexist with UAC without disabling UAC. One way is to >>install the app locally in >>c:\users\username\programs >>which means it will run locally for that individual user. Another way >>is to click on the icon and select run as admin from the pull down >>menu. Finally, on Windows 7 Ultimate there is a way to customize UAC >>so it will not block certain programs. So there isn't any need to >>disable UAC if you know how to run older programs on Windows 7 >>correctly. >> >>Cheers! >> >> >>On 3/9/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi Kurt. >> > >> > In the kitchinsinc directory, all the monopoly board files are just >> > called >> > monopolyboardname, as one word, for instance monopolyboardaircraft or >> > monopolyboardbeatles, so you can just delete them as normal. >> > >> > to be honest though, from everything I've heard, why have you got uac on >> > anyway? Almost every single program I've found advises you to turn it >> > off >> > if you want stuff to run properly on windows 7. >> > >> > Beware the Grue! >> > >> > Dark. >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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