If I may chime in on this discussion as it were. Windows 8 does not load,
or at least the consumer preview doesn't, on any of the pcs we've tried.
But apparently, according to an old friend of mine, its almost like a
touch-screen (smartphone) interface has been ported to desktop. Just to
give you a heads-up. How good is classic shell anyway? Just to ask what
it
brings in favour of our predicament.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: 11 March 2012 12:46
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly
Hi Dark,
Sure. As I said before that is perfectly understandable. However, weather
you have a use for Windows 7 or not is really beside the point.
The fact is that when you or anyone else buys a new computer you'll get
Windows 7 on it and you will have to either roll with the change or remain
in the technical dark ages with XP. Its not necessarily pleasant or
something you like, but what alternative do you really have?
I'll use myself as an example. You know that I use Linux quite a lot
instead
of Windows. I was very happy with the way accessibility and development
was
going clear up to Ubuntu 10.04 and the Gnome 2.32 desktop. However, last
year things went down hill in my opinion in a hurry. The Gnome developers
released the Gnome 3.0 and Gnome 3.2 desktops which broke accessibility in
a
number of cases, and there were changes I didn't particularly like about
the
new Gnome desktop. To add to my frustration Ubuntu decided to drop the
Gnome
desktop in favor of their own desktop, Unity, which was totally different
and less accessible than Gnome 2.32. Obviously this situation has me just
as
reluctant to upgrade to new versions of Ubuntu just like you don't want to
upgrade to newer versions of Windows. However, the way I see it is that I
don't have much of a choice long term.
Ubuntu have what are called long term support releases, LTS, which are
only
good for two years. So if a person downloads 10.04 LTS in April
2010 the updates, applications, and support for that release will end in
April 2012. Sure, a person can continue running it long after that point
but
there will be no new patches or updates available in software center for
that release. If they want patches, updates, and new applications they
have
to upgrade to the new LTS release Ubuntu 12 which comes out sometime next
month, or that person has to manually apply those patches by getting the
source, compiling, and installing it themselves. Normally this isn't a
problem, but for me I find it very frustrating.
I've got Ubuntu 12 beta installed here in a virtual machine, and I have to
confess I hate it. the accessibility has taken a nose dive since Ubuntu
10,
and there are all kinds of strange bugs that make it less than ideal for
me.
One bug that we are discussing on the Orca list is the fact when arrowing
through a menu Orca announces the underscore character used to identify
the
hot key for the menu selection. You might be arrowing through
Thunderbird's
menus and hear something like Prefere underscore nces. Where it correctly
identifies the n is the underlined character, but it disrupts the word
making it difficult to figure out that its saying Preferences. I'm sure
eventually said bug will get fixed, but until it does, as well as other
annoying bugs, I have no desire to upgrade to Ubuntu 12. So I understand
your reluctance to upgrade to Windows 7 as our situations are similar if
not
exactly the same.
Cheers!
On 3/11/2012 7:16 AM, dark wrote:
Hi Tom.
well it is true that I didn't know about creating local user
directories for installation like that, however a lot of reluctance
with windows 7 is based on actual experience I've had with the user
interface.
I for instance like my computer laid out logically with many
directories and folders, and use windows explorer constantly to go and
find the stuff I want, just as if I was picking them off a book shelf.
For instance I have a folder in the programs menue called audio games,
within which are folders for gma, bsc, blind adrenalin etc. I have
tried the windows 7 search box, but strongly dislike it, sinse I
always prefer looking through the material I have and being able to
review it, and those user interface functions are just plane not!
there on windows 7 sinse microsoft went for a flashy, ridiculous ui
that is hell for a screen reader. I know classic shell will help with
this, but if I'm going to make every effort to turn windows 7 into xp,
---- what's the point in windows 7 anyway? it's not as if there really
is that much i want to do that requires it, indeed a lot of the things
i do with computers will be blocked by having it.
That is why, though I may well have to get a windows 7 machine if my
desktop gives up the ghost, I'm not in the least looking forward to it.
Frankly I wish microsoft had just carried on with a better version of
xp rather than changing the entire interface, layout, architecture and
everything else to something that is far less screen reader friendly.
Though i have actually heard windows 8 is to have better compatibility
with older programs sinse so many people disliked the way windows 7
broke this, which is a point in it's favour over 7.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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