Wow an example of the thinking of some blind people's Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 21, 2012, at 3:02 PM, "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]> wrote: > Not so. The built-in screen reader tells you what you're highlighting. Your > thinking would be like saying that a computer isn't accessible because we > have to use a keyboard rather than the quick way that sighted people can > access stuff using the mouse. They can see what is on the screen and use the > mouse to click on it. We have to use a screen reader and keyboard. Just > because we have to use a different method to accomplish the same thing > doesn't mean that we can't do it. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damien Pendleton" > <[email protected]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks > > >> Hi Brian, >> The thing is, they're only accessible because we've had to use dirty >> workarounds to access things that sighted people can access quicker than we >> can even use a computer. They can see which part of the screen they are >> touching, they can see how to do all the moves right, so they've got no need >> to worry. They seem to have it all handed to them on a plate where we have >> to crawl in the dirt to get access to what we need. >> Regards, >> Damien. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 7:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks >> >> >>> I think you're missing the point though. Touch screens are cheaper to make >>> and qite frankl last longer since eventually buttons will give out. My >>> laptop for instance is missing te Tab key. Besides, now tat it's been >>> proven that touch screens CAN be made accessible I can see a big leap >>> forward in terms of our technology. >>> >>> >>> >>> Are you threatening me? I am the great Cornholio! I come from Lake Titicaca! >>> -----Original Message----- From: Damien Pendleton >>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:25 AM >>> To: Gamers Discussion list >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks >>> >>> Hi Dark, >>> If I were to go into my deepest thoughts about touch screen, I'd have to ban >>> myself for profanity. Trust it to say, I hate them with a passion and think >>> that adding voiceover to a touch screen device is just another corrupt >>> twisted pro sighted business way of conning the law and getting away with >>> discrimination. The fact that so many VI people have found a way to conquer >>> that is rather impressive to me, and if that's the case, then so be it. But >>> I think it's rather unnecessary to have to do that when the business itself >>> should make more of an effort. Just because they don't know we exist, or >>> choose to believe we don't exist, doesn't make us go away. And if companies >>> continue to design things in their own eye happy way, in another twenty or >>> thirty years it's probably unlikely we'd be able to use anything in the >>> mainstream market and we'll be right back to square one with specially >>> designed excessively expensive products and the like. >>> That's only my opinion, I know tons of you won't agree, but this debate goes >>> slightly away from games so I don't want this to turn into a full blown >>> argument as to which is the best operating system to work with. >>> That's me off my soapbox now. >>> Regards, >>> Damien. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:55 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LWorks >>> >>> >>>> I must admit I'm planning on an Iphone myself when my laptop busts, since >>>> these days I just need something portable, and there are more and more >>>> really awsom sounding games for it. >>>> >>>> I understand there will be a learning curve, but actually I will probably >>>> use games to help me with that, for instance playing text games to learn >>>> about screen navigation, the same way that playing online web games got me >>>> familiar with site navigation. >>>> >>>> Of course, I've not tried one yet, so I might be jumping to conclusions, >>>> but from the sound of it touch screens are the way to go, and I'm >>>> intreagued by the idea of one that works with screen reading. >>>> >>>> Beware the grue! >>>> >>>> Dark. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [email protected]. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [email protected]. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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