Oh yes. I am quite familiar with bio-psychology. Apparently, according to that one, thoughts and consciousness are merely the brains way of letting the world know that it is working. There is some sort of study that shows how thoughts can come at least 300 milliseconds after actions. My personal feeling on that one is that it's basically the religion of human animalism, and I treat it as such.
As for the view of science and religion as opposite sides, as though there is some great game of discovery and each force, science and religion, are teams in that match, how can we be surprised? Humanity is quite good at making such dycotomies. I mean, tying this back to the original topic, look at people's reactions to roleplay. Either it's good or it's bad. Either it increases imagination, allows healthy expression of emotions, is a great source of fun, etc., or it is a form of escapism for the deluded, a waste of time, morrally or religiously reprehensible, etc. I honestly think that it is just a human thing to operate in black and white terms, reguardless of culture, creed, or custom. I mean, even look at a good bit of the books, television programs, and movies out there, from all sorts of places around the world. There is definitely a protagonist and definitely an antagonist. Whether either is morrally correct is questionable, but the protagonist tends to be more so and the antagonist tends to be less so. Science and religion can coexist on the same planet, in the same discussion, and within one individual. I will never understand those who claim it cannot be so. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 6/20/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi decota. > > One interesting thing, is that the more you learn about science and the > scientific process, the more you realize that it is just as much a matter of > > supposition, speculation and opinion based on pre existing conceptions of > the world as any other belief system, and people like Richard dorkins who > seem to think that it's any sort of method of discovering universal truth > are completely and utterly on the wrong track. > > This isn't to say everyone is right, or that we should accept any view > unchallenged, only that the belief, originally started in the later part of > > the enlightenment and then carried on by movements like logical positivism, > > that on the one hand there is rational, cold and objective science, and on > the other there is irrational immotive religion is utterly unfounded. > > indeed, when I was doing my A levels in psychology, biology and religious > ethics, it always amused me that in the ethics and psychology we'd get view > > of people who said "no, it's all just neural chemistry, there is no > unphysical mind" then in biology when actually studdying! neuro chemistry, > it would be "well this is sort of slightly how we perhaps might think a > reflex might sort of work!" > > My own religious belief I do not call faith, sinse it is based on direct > experience, thus it would be irrational! or at the least inconsistant with a > > belief in the reliability of my own perceptions of the world to disbelieve > those experiences, albeit that these days I am somewhat less certain as to > whether God actually cares about anyone on a personal level or is in any > sense active. > > My own religious beliefs aside though, I suggest you look into the practice > > of philosophy of science, more specifically Hume's outline of the problem of > > induction, Kuhn's arguements of paradigm shift, and Paul ffiaabent's > arguement from experimental regress. > > All are very well outlined in an introductory book called what is this thing > > called science, edited by A.J. chambers. it was one of my text books when I > > studdied philosophy of science during my degree, but was one of the best > written and most interesting to read, and I'd highly suggest anyone > interested in this topic have a look at it. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected].
