I just draw a couple of samples of the Ganeti code, and it seems as if
private functions/classes are generally defined first.
I'll rearrange the code according to this, and re-send the patches
afterwards.

Thanks,
Thomas


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Thomas Thrainer <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Bernardo Dal Seno 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On 15 May 2013 10:29, Thomas Thrainer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > If there is still room for discussion, I'd have _very_ strong objections
>> > against putting helper functions before their actual use. IMHO this
>> destroys
>> > the natural flow of reading code.
>>
>> I think that before any discussion, we should look at the data. If the
>> rest of the code is done in one way, that's something we have to take
>> into account (even if we decide to change it). Again, maybe I'm
>> mistaken (except for cmdlib.py), and if that's the case please let me
>> know.
>>
>> Obviously consistency is more important than personal preferences. I
> would not opt for changing the whole codebase just because of my opinion.
> But if we are starting a discussion which should lead to a guideline, I'd
> like to give my 0.02$ :).
>
>
>
>> I understand that everybody has their own preferences, and I too read
>> the main function first (so I'm perfectly fine with your proposal),
>> but IMHO it's not something so important to warrant changing the whole
>> code; after all, I've never seen anyone reading code line by line as
>> you read a book. But this is something that we should discuss (in
>> person would be better) given that you have strong feelings.
>>
>> > Usually you want to start with a rough
>> > overview, and then dive into the details (or just skip them, if the
>> > functions are aptly named). Please refer to Clean Code [0] for much more
>> > arguments and thoughts about how to structure code w.r.t readability
>> (and
>> > cleanliness in general).
>>
>> True, but you can start by reading the last function/class, and IMHO
>> it's not a big deal: After reading the main function usually you have
>> to skip back and forth anyway, as the dependency graph is (almost)
>> never linear. Naming functions in a sane way is much more important
>> IMHO, and actually there are cases where we could have done better.
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> > [0]
>> >
>> http://www.amazon.com/Clean-Code-Handbook-Software-Craftsmanship/dp/0132350882
>>
>> I'm not sure why you didn't reply to the list, but if it was by
>> mistake, you can forward this to the list.
>>
>
> Sorry, just a mistake, I added the list again.
>
>
>>
>> Bernardo
>>
>
>
>
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