Peter Seibel wrote: > On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Peter Seibel wrote: > > >>On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Paolo Amoroso wrote: >> >> >>>I realize that my frankness may sound harsh. I am aware that >>>volunteer labor is a gift, and that Real Life takes its toll. But I >>>would like to understand why the CLD has received so little help, and >>>whether this may have any implications for current and future >>>gardeners projects. >> >>>Ideas and discussions are no longer enough. Lisp needs labor, not >>>praise. >> >>I agree with this last sentiment and appreciate Paolo's frankness. >>I'm also interested in what we can do to enable more people to >>contribute to tending the Common Lisp garden. > > > I should also point out that there's a flip side to this, which is if > there's a project that you're championing (or even just interested > in) that nobody else is contributing to, it's worth a few polite > queries to the list asking if there are folks who might be interested > but are put off for one reason or another. Maybe there's something > about the way the project is defined or structured or whatever that > makes people less interested than they might otherwise be. If even > these queries go unanswered then you'll probably have to reconcile > yourself to doing more work on your own to get the project to a point > where it attracts other contributors or giving up on the project. > > -Peter >
Well, my ambitions currently outstrip my Lisp skills, so I decided to shut up (for the most part) until I could put up. No one's going to do large scale lightweight concurrency in common lisp (and let us look at the code) just because I think it's a neato idea. It enough to make you switch to gambit scheme some days. I'm motivated by producing (good) code. If I produce something someday that isn't completely embarrassing, I'll make a contribution. I suppose that's not the ideal Gardener's mentality. As a side note to the thrust of this discussion, I also find Cliki quite a bit more useful and usable than the CLD. I suppose the CLD is a well meaning response to the reddit debacle, but I was more interested in reddit's threading problems in cmucl than in showing them up. Matt -- "You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother." — Albert Einstein. _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
