Dear Bill

Would you agree that any device that gasifies material is a "gasifier"?

Would you agree that any gas being produced by such a gas producer is "Producer gas"?

Would you agree that if the composition of the gas produced was such that it could be used for synthesizing other products that it could be termed "synthesis gas"?

Lets work toward arriving at definitions, rather than slamming or supporting people.

Kevin


----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Klein" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification" <[email protected]>
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Well said, Greg!

During this discussion several well meaning folks have alluded to the
rationalization that states if an academic paper uses the term "syngas"
rather than "producer gas" or if a governmental body does the same, it
becomes some sort of proof positive that the terms are not only
interchangeable, but we can ignore specificity in favor of a simple catch
all generic term. All because some professor wrote a paper and, though well intentioned, ignorantly used the wrong word!!? Or someone in the government
demonstrating equal ignorance?

What a joke!

Let's face it. Those that can, do! and those that cannot, teach! Those that
cannot teach work for the government. It's that simple.

Producer gas, by any other name is still producer gas and if you don't do a
good job making it, the resulting mess is sticky, smelly and unhealthy.

We manufacture gasifiers. We test the hell out of them before we ship them
in order to ensure each makes the correct amount of producer gas!

Have a gassy New Year!

Bill Klein,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Manning" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 6:31 AM
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LMAO Jeff.

You hit two nails with the same hammer.

Shells' claim is that it "cleans" (their N2 is in the form of a "recumbent
NOx format", that "Boosts" performance to the point of a clean combustion,
as per say, like a hot-rodders's "NOX" add-on).


 Jim's statement (that you included below) Is yet again a form of
deflection, (incorrect of course), Or should I say, Correct.......



 N2 content is EXACTLY the differentiation between "SYNGAS" and "Producer
Gas"



Heck,

There's Town gas, Lime gas, Produced gas, Producer gas, Coal gas, Wood gas,
Piped gas, Charcoal gas, Synthesis (Syn) gas, Lamp gas, Heating gas,
Municipal gas, Queen's gas, Lamp lighters gas, Crier's gas, and finally,
Natural gas.

And as Bill Kline added, the "new and Improved" "GEK Gas" as a tongue in
cheek addition to the already rampant list above.



I'm Tired, of people trying to display a "cow" as a cow that is "New and
Improved" version (chocolate ?), don't muddy the already bad waters of
gasification, with cross-gendered, yuppie-flavored, names of gases that
simply ain't so.



I hate to say it, but... "It's people like you, that have given
gasification the bad name it already has with investors, with your "pie in
the sky claims"".

Jim, run your "Syngas" un-stripped in an FT process, (that works), THEN, I
will relinquish the "the moon" to you....(you will deserve it, for your
advances in the quantum mechanics of physics).

Greg Manning,
Canadian Gasifier Ltd.  (http://www.cangas.ca)
Building Hi-Performance Gasifiers, Since 2001

Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
1 (204) 726-1851







-----Original Message-----
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Davis
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:35 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Syngas on Wiki_


Dear All,


As a side note; I drive by a gasoline station, maybe Shell, that puffs
that they're gasoline has nitrogen added. Interesting...


H. N. Y.,


Jeff


On Tue, 2010-12-28 at 21:07 -0800, jim mason wrote:
percentage nitrogen density isn't really the relevant racetrack to
work out the real issues with this tech.





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