Helo  Leland TOm

    This how we try to model  tom make  simple simple  process where
 indirect heated pyrolysis  is made simultanely  along with gasification
 pyrolysis oil  leading to Gas methane, C02 , CO which  has to be shifted
using steam whch can increase the co2  along with H2.   This  reformed  gas
 obtained as co product  of activated charcoal, methanol , unconverted
 syngas for small  CHP.

We also think of solid charcoal  and  methane  , high temperature
pyrolysis alterative to H2:CO content  to make less CO2 syngas
, suitable for small scale Biomass 2 liquid project  such as GEK low cost
technology, to make multy products

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> An interesting thought on the naming of "syngas" is that if a gasifier
> produces "syngas" and then it has to be shifted in H2:CO content for a
> catalytic process, then what is it called?

ore con
    This can be called as  reformed gas /

The use of reforming  , reformed  gas can be  the correct  instead of
syngas

The use of pyrogas  is very clear with repect to the product and process,
the same to for producer gas , when you come to syngas ,it can be defined by
the process , but only the product, making it use  not specific

>
> Truely
>
Pannirselvam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: LINVENT <[email protected]>
> To: gasification <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 5:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Syngas on Wiki_
>
> I believe that syngas is specific to the application, and is based on the
> ratio of hydrogen to carbon monoxide. As an example, ammonia syngas as
> defined in flow sheets for an ammonia plant is 3H2:1N2. Syngas for FT
> reactions
> can be from .6H2:1CO-1.5H2:CO, with iron based catalysts requiring less H2
> than cobalt catalysts because the iron catalyst will do it's own shift
> reaction. Produced gas, water gas, blue gas, low heating value gas, low CV
> gas are
> all more appropriate designations for air based gasification systems. Even
> an
> oxygen or steam driven gasification system will not produce a "syngas"
> appropriate for certain catalyst reactions, but will work for many.
>
> The use of nitrogen in the gas is indeed done in some of the more
> sopshisticated catalyst systems because it reduces the thermal
> concentration
> in the
> typically exothermic reactor such as FT reactions which in turn reduces the
> amount of cooling needed for the reactor design which can be a significant
> effect.
>
> The use of the term "syngas" is inappropriate for any gasification system
> because it is a specific composition based on the catalyst used. Only
> syngas
>
> can be called this when it is cleaned, balanced for the catalyst with
> contaminants removed such as Cl, S, organics so that the catalyst is not
> damaged
> by it.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
> President
> Thermogenics Inc.
> 505.463.8422
> www.thermogenics.com
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