Hi Arnt, Tom T. and Colleagues,

Thanks for the responses to my questions regarding this companies   
http://www.agtgasification.com/eng/agt_srl.htm 
presentation of it's gasification technology.

>> Dear Group,>>      I do not worry about this group going very far. 
> 
> ..wrong, this _is_ our problem, _they_ _fail_, and _they_ _burn_
> investors, politicians, and potential industrial partners who
> _experience_ failures "in gasification", rather than on incompetent 
> attemps at R&D, or worse, e.g. investor fraud or white washing of 
> dope etc money.

We certainly do have some interesting informed lurkers watching this list, who 
privately have told me from their own enquiries for larger systems, that AGT 
are happy to demonstrate their systems working in Italy. The 250kWe system is 
to be replaced by a 500kWe model, for which they say, have an order to supply 
30 units to the Dominican Republic.

As their technology has emphasis on gas cleaning, rather than tar free gas 
making, one might hope that those who get to use these in that country, will 
also be given the infrastructural support to maintain the water cleaning 
system, and prevent any release of toxic materials to the ground water. It is 
also true that black liquors can be recycled into other useful products in a 
rural situation devoid of expensive commercially produced chemicals, 
influencing the choice of gasification technology.

While Arnt points out the down side of failed projects, I know of previous 
Italian Government Aid to developing countries, included gasifiers, but not 
monetary Aid. The recipient country didn't want them, and substantial 
"influence" was used to get just one installed at a Sawmill. Gasification can 
fail for all the wrong reasons, and we need to keep up with all manufactures 
progress, or regression, as to how they enter the markets with the technology 
approach they offer.

There are "horses for courses", so we should not be critical of any system, 
unless it is presented completely out of focus with it's capability. In this 
respect, what are the intended users of these gasifiers (in fact from any 
manufacturer) expecting resulting from there installation? We don't know how 
desperate potential users may be, so it should be important to clearly present 
information that may be only specific for that gasification system in their 
location. It could mean success or failure to the user(:-)

So, the next questions. Who can answer for the Dominican Republics 
implementation programme for gasifiers? Is this a Government  implementation 
programme, or a private commercially driven need for gasified energy from 
forestry or agricultural waste? It would also be interesting to learn if AGT 
have previously supplied systems for testing before this large order was placed.

I appreciated the private communications, and respect that some cannot offer 
public comment, but I would encourage more lurkers to participate, either 
through me or one of your other confidents to share obscure information on all 
things gasification.

Doug Williams,
Fluidyne.








 

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