OK...I have been monitoring this group for quite some time...and I have to 
concur with Toby...and add...

STEAM...is like Dr. Pepper...paraphrasing...'MIS UNDERSTOOD"...

Phase change is the POWER and VALUE of "water"...er...vapor...er...ice...er 
STEAM...


great illustration of the power of phase change...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOYgdQp4euc


Richard Bockwinkel

On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Toby Seiler wrote:

> "steam is definitely not sexy in the renewable energy world".
>  
> Go back to the "Stanley Steamer" and study the boiler.  I think about 1500 of 
> them were sold and there were no boiler explosions (that I found).  When 
> checking with Kennedy Tank, a similar boiler can be made using todays 
> materials.  From my research, it is the verticle firetube (and a lot of them) 
> that is key, since the temperature has limits as long as it has ANY water in 
> it.   
>  
> My boss at Bryan Steam was the ASME Section 7 Chairman for many years (in 
> 1978) and they had built a steam car (around 1900) that we often discussed.   
> He assured me steam would be back to "sexy" and I still believe this to be 
> true, if one chooses a design that is inherently safer. 
>  
> Stanley Steamer held the world land speed record for a very long time (untill 
> recently).  That boiler was rated at 600psi but my guess is, at the speed 
> record attempt they were well over 1000-1200f.  There is a lot of stored 
> energy in water that is not yet steam (due to pressure) and I often wonder 
> about injecting super heated water into an engine, taking advantage of the 
> 1600x expansion, liquid to vapor. 
>  
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