It seems that these systems are all the same and have very limited input range, 
complex control systems, no produced water removal and treatment system where 
water vapor eats the engine parts from formation of organic and other acids and 
lowers volumetric efficiency from dilution of the produced gas. There are 
significant improvements that go beyond these options and allow for much longer 
life of the engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and not 
necessary for pelleting. 

 

 

Sincerely,

Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc. 
+001-505-463-8422 
www.thermogenicx.com
Skype: ltt.invent

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Murphy <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 8:53 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers


    
Nicolo,
      
      please stop sending me emails to other people.
      
      David Murphy.
      
      On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:
    
    
      
        
you          are welcome Tom,
        

        
        
only          4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( <          
than 4 mgr/nM3 )
        
and          only very few can process anything else other than strictly        
  selected wood chips
        
here          is one we are proud to represent
        

        
        
www.pyrogas-gmbh.de
        

        
        
The          package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for       
   years that required
        
complete          replacement  after 3/4 years, now they use a new USA Made  
CHP          engine called Origin 
        
probably          a labelled OEM Product we cannot  trace.
        

        
        
our          organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste      
    types and organic matters
        
such          as chicken manure
        

        
        
regards
        

        
        
NC
        

        
      
      

        
          
            
              
              
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2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <[email protected]>:
          
            
              
                
Thanks,                    Nicolo. It’s good to know about you. 
                
 
                
I                    didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in          
          Europe. 
                
 
                
Tom
                
 
                                
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                    Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:08 PM
                    To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and                    
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                    Subject: SPAM: Re: [Gasification] Small Scale               
     Industrial Gasifiers
                
 
                
                  
                    
Hello
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
please                        see our versions
                  
                  
                    
at                        www.altair-pyro.com
                  
                  
                    
new                        addresses here below
                  
                  
                    
we                        are shipping to you our sales docs
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
our                        prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized       
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they                        range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe             
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we                        know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter      
                  is a Spanner user )
                  
                  
                    
we                        have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
                  
                  
                    
 
                  
                  
                    
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2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom                      Miles <[email protected]>:
                    
                      
                        
                          
At a wood energy                            conference in Alaska last week it 
occurred                            to me that the number of small scale        
                    “industrial” gasifiers is growing. They are                 
           now available worldwide and there are many                           
 reports of good customer service. Gasifiers                            that 
were only available in Europe are now                            being 
installed in North America. 
                          
 
                          
Wood chip and pellet                            gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe 
range are now                            running 7000 hours or more. 
                          
 
                          
Some suppliers: 
                          
Spanner – 600 units
                          
Volter                            – 100 units
                          
Holzenergie                            – 60 units
                          
Burkhardt – 100+ (wood                            pellets)
                          
 
                          
These units all have                            tight fuel requirements: 
pellets (Burkhardt)                            or dry (13-15% MC), and properly 
sized fuel                            for reliable operation. Some suppliers 
offer                            sizing and drying equipment. 
                          
 
                          
They are all expensive so                            they require applications 
where there is                            high value for the heat and the power.
                          
 
                          
What has been the                            owner-operator experience of 
running these                            systems? 
                          
 
                          
Tom  
                          
 
                          
 
                          
 
                          
 
                        
                      
                      

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