Tom M. and Tom T., and all,

What arer the sizes (kWe) (or some other measurement??) of these units? Big difference if discussing 5 kWe or 25 or 100 or larger. My interest is in sizes under 25 kWe.

Paul

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On 4/18/2017 11:16 AM, l wrote:
It seems that these systems are all the same and have very limited input range, complex control systems, no produced water removal and treatment system where water vapor eats the engine parts from formation of organic and other acids and lowers volumetric efficiency from dilution of the produced gas. There are significant improvements that go beyond these options and allow for much longer life of the engine, highe r output per unit, less drying required and not necessary for pelleting.


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Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
Thermogenics Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Murphy <[email protected]>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 8:53 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Small Scale Industrial Gasifiers

Nicolo,

please stop sending me emails to other people.

David Murphy.

On 18/04/2017 5:04 PM, Nicolò Cerni wrote:

    you are welcome Tom,

    only 4 manufacturers offer certified syngas with low tars ( < than
    4 mgr/nM3 )
    and only very few can process anything else other than strictly
    selected wood chips
    here is one we are proud to represent

    www.pyrogas-gmbh.de <http://www.pyrogas-gmbh.de>

    The package units you refer to as Spanner had a GM 5,7 motor for
    years that required
    complete replacement  after 3/4 years, now they use a new USA Made
     CHP engine called Origin
    probably a labelled OEM Product we cannot  trace.

    our organic biomass gasifier AHT can process different wood waste
    types and organic matters
    such as chicken manure

    regards

    NC


    
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    2017-04-18 0:26 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        Thanks, Nicolo. It’s good to know about you.
        I didn’t know there were that many manufacturers in Europe.
        Tom
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        *Subject:* SPAM: Re: [Gasification] Small Scale Industrial
        Gasifiers
        Hello
        please see our versions
        at www.altair-pyro.com <http://www.altair-pyro.com>
        new addresses here below
        we are shipping to you our sales docs
        our prices are adjusted to local markets Levelized costs of
        energy
        they range from 3.200 to 4.600 Euros x 1 Kwe installed Cogen
        set power
        we know all of the gasifiers you mentioned ( Volter is a
        Spanner user )
        we have another 12 manufacturers in Europe
        regards
        NC
        
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        2017-04-17 23:31 GMT+02:00 Tom Miles <[email protected]
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            At a wood energy conference in Alaska last week it
            occurred to me that the number of small scale “industrial”
            gasifiers is growing. They are now available worldwide and
            there are many reports of good customer service. Gasifiers
            that were only available in Europe are now being installed
            in North America.
            Wood chip and pellet gasifiers in the 40-125 kWe range are
            now running 7000 hours or more.
            Some suppliers:
            Spanner <http://www.holz-kraft.de/en/> – 600 units
            Volter <http://volter.fi/> – 100 units
            Holzenergie <http://www.holzenergie-wegscheid.de/?lang=EN>
            – 60 units
            Burkhardt
            <http://burkhardt-energy.com/hp604/Wood-Gasifier-V-3-90.htm>
            – 100+ (wood pellets)
            These units all have tight fuel requirements: pellets
            (Burkhardt) or dry (13-15% MC), and properly sized fuel
            for reliable operation. Some suppliers offer sizing and
            drying equipment.
            They are all expensive so they require applications where
            there is high value for the heat and the power.
            What has been the owner-operator experience of running
            these systems?
            Tom

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