Rolf ,
Quite right C instead of F.
I'm thinking of cherry red, on  cast iron exhaust manifolds, as about the 
working temperature of fully loaded stationary  engine on the correct fuel 
mixture.
The system I have in mind would entail the reduction of nitrogen in the loop, 
if I can successfully produce oxygen enrichment with Zeolite adsorption.
Nitrogen  being replaced with CO 2  Does that sound feasible?
Do you feel it might be possible to turn CO 2 into Methane with the addition of 
hydrogen?, there is certainly enough H2 and energy on hand to accomplish this.
I seem to remember years ago. viewing on  "Tomorrows World" a diesel engine 
running under 50 ft of water without any emission exhaust gasses,which were
apparently re circulated,   probably through Sodium Hydroxide.The point I am 
making is; all things are possible especially when heat and electricity are 
available.

GF



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GF,
o, I have no info about passing "red hot exhaust" through the reaction zone.
ut what do you mean by red hot ? 450-500 °C? 
hat's mighty hot enough to burn your fingers, but it would actually cool teh 
-zone down !
lso, if i understand you right, it would drag even more inert gas into the 
eaction , thus leading to a less rich gas.
e want the energy, but not the stuff!
nother thing would be an indirect heating of the dry biomass and introduce 
hese fumes into the running gasifier. But in the end this would not be more 
han a enlarged pyrolisis zone. We would still need some high temperature 
eat to crack the tars and reduce .
nd yes, very dry biomass might ask for some additional water in form of 
team.
on't know if I missed your point, if so, please explain!
Rolf


Am Montag, 27. Dezember 2010 01:03:12 schrieb GF:
 Rolph.

 Is there any information regarding the effect of passing  "red hot exhaust
 gas" in combination with steam  through the reaction zone? This may  sound
 like a stupid question, with CO 2 having  the reputation of being an
 effective fire suppressant. Such is the reaction within the presence of
 steam,and the oxidization of cabon.CO2 will undergo a change, producing 
 quality methane if the reaction is favorable. Such a reaction might not
 need very much additional air for pyrolises which should be sustained by
 the release of oxygen from the cracking process, thus reducing the nitrogen
 content of the gas produced. improving quality. I am thinking of simulating
 this reaction using  "furnace coke" or charcoal, oxygen, nitrogen, steam,
 compressed air and scrap engine oil. inside a reaction chamber. I just need
 to get a handle on the quantities of these components to obtain the desired
 product. I have the metering system for the oil (fuel), and water
 (steam),and a few flow meters to control the gasses involved etc. The book 
 mentioned in my last Email gave the quantity and BTU content of the gas
 obtained from various fuels including wood products.

 GFWHELL

 GFWHELL






 -----Original Message-----
 From: Rolf Uhle <[email protected]>
 To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
 <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 5:07 pm
 Subject: Re: [Gasification] Drying fuel with IC exhause and
 otherpleasures...

 Am Sonntag, 26. Dezember 2010 18:08:31 schrieb GF:
 > If so, additional heat needs to be applied to this area in order to
 > convert

  the "water trapped within the fuel" in to super heated steam, just before
  being drawn through the "reaction zone". Perhaps we should consider the
 ICE as the primary provider of heat for pyrolization, and build the
 gasifier around it."
 Yes , very much so! This is how Jim set up the GEK and it could even be
 mproved.
 ess energy to be provided by the oxidation process means less air/less
 itrogen in the process. It means a " richer poor gas"
 happy new year, btw
 Rolf

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