I disagree. The defense didn't turn the ball over three times and they had 
their part of the game under control until that happened. I consider this an 
offensive failure by their repeatedly putting the defense in an untenable 
position and by the offensive line failing to control the line of scrimmage.

Rob


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:22 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Tebow sorry, promises better days


>
> I call BS!
>
> Quite simply... Tebow doesn't play defense.
>
> Gators score 30 points and we should win!  Defense
> stops ol' miss ONE time and we win.  Defense doesn't
> allow an 85 yard TD to answer and we win...
>
> Offense did what they had to do.  Defense does not.
> Why are you blaming the leader on offense for
> something that is quite clearly a defensive loss.
> Blame your defensive leader... if we have one.
>
> Scott L.
>
> --- Gatorrrrrr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> And he should be damn sorry.  He is the leader of
>> this team.  He knows its on his shoulders to be
>> super focused and efficient.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is something going on with Tebow that we may
>> not be aware of. either physically. or more
>> probable mentally. his head is not on right. his
>> focus and preparation were already under scrutiny
>> coming into this season because he spent all
>> summer playing pastor-wannabe.  That is where his
>> heart is and honorable as it may be.. I know.. but
>> he has a job to do and I think he has to make a
>> choice. yesterday was not entirely his fault.. but
>> he deserves the brunt of the blame.  I think he
>> and the rest of the team needed this loss to wake
>> the hell up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tebow D
>>
>> Coaches F
>>
>> Moody B+ other backs C-
>>
>> Harvin and the receivers D
>>
>> Oline D-
>>
>> Defense  C-
>>
>>
>>
>> This loss wasn't that much of a surprise to me..
>> and when they are available... my picks will show
>> that.  I said it once already.. but I don't like
>> it when Im right.  This game is a culimination of
>> everything we have hidden that was wrong with this
>> team.  I don't think this was just a "one game
>> slip up".
>>
>>
>>
>> Ill be in Tampa again Thurs afternoon thru Sun..
>> hopefully sitting at Chilis or somewhere watching
>> a very different team.  Hopefully one that's gone
>> back square one.
>>
>>
>>
>> Woody
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 11:18 AM
>> To: gatortalk googlegroups
>> Subject: [gatortalk] RE: [gatornews] Tebow sorry,
>> promises better days
>>
>>
>>
>> Out of 85 players on scholarship - we only have
>> one player that is sorry?  Only one player that is
>> going to try harder?
>>
>>
>>
>> This was a team loss.  Coaches, players, etc.
>> This was not a Tim Tebow loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> Until we have 85 players that are trying harder -
>> it will be "wait until next year".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [gatornews] Tebow sorry, promises better
>> days
>> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, September 28, 2008 10:53 am
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  floridatoday.com
>> <http://www.floridatoday.com/graphics/mastlogo.gif
>> >
>>
>>
>> September 28, 2008
>>
>> Tebow sorry, promises better days
>>
>> BY DAVID JONES
>> FLORIDA TODAY
>>
>> Florida quarterback Tim Tebow was emotional after
>> the fourth-ranked Gators' 31-30 loss to Ole Miss
>> on Saturday and before leaving the interview room
>> sent a message to Gator followers.
>>
>> "To the fans and everybody in Gator Nation: You
>> know what? I'm sorry, extremely sorry," a
>> misty-eyed Tebow said. "We were hoping for an
>> undefeated season, that was my goal. It's
>> something Florida has never done here. But I
>> promise you one thing. A lot of good will come out
>> of this. You have never seen any player in the
>> entire country play as hard as I will play the
>> rest of the season."
>>
>> It was Ole Miss' first win against a ranked team
>> since a 20-13 win against No. 3 Notre Dame in
>> 1977. The Rebels, who hadn't won an SEC road game
>> in four seasons, ended a 15-game losing streak to
>> ranked teams.
>>
>> Tebow came into the game without a rushing
>> touchdown this season, after becoming the first
>> player in NCAA history to rush and pass for 20
>> touchdowns in a season a year ago. He managed a
>> pair of 1-yard scores against the Rebels, but was
>> held to seven yards on 15 rushes against the
>> Rebels after picking up 166 on 27 attempts in last
>> year's game in Oxford.
>>
>> He still hasn't thrown an interception in his last
>> 183 attempts, however, which is the fifth-longest
>> streak in SEC history.
>>
>> Streak ends
>>
>> Florida had not turned the ball over so far this
>> season, the only team in the nation that could
>> make that claim, prior to Saturday. But the Gators
>> coughed it up three times.
>>
>> "Three turnovers and dropped passes made the
>> offense non-functional," UF coach Urban Meyer
>> said.
>>
>> The last time the Gators lost three fumbles in a
>> game was a 34-17 win at Vanderbilt on Nov. 6,
>> 2004.
>>
>> "We're real disappointed," UF offensive lineman
>> Mike Pouncey said. "We played real sloppy on the
>> offensive side."
>>
>> Swim stars honored
>>
>> Gator graduates and Olympic swim medalists Ryan
>> Lochte and Dara Torres were honored at halftime.
>> Both have been extremely busy since the Olympic
>> Games. Both appeared on "Oprah Winfrey." Daytona
>> had a Ryan Lochte Day on Sept. 17, about a week
>> after he rang the bell at the New York Stock
>> Exchange. Torres was on the "Tonight Show" and
>> threw out the first pitch at a New York Yankees
>> game.
>>
>> She's working on two books -- one on physical
>> fitness and the other on her life story. Lochte
>> has definite plans to compete in the 2012 Games in
>> London. Torres, the oldest woman to ever win an
>> Olympic medal at 41, could be a different story --
>> but don't count her out yet. She plans to train
>> for the World Championships and take it from
>> there.
>>
>> "I can't say, 'no,' just because the previous two
>> (Olympics) I said that and then I came back,"
>> Torres said of London.
>>
>> Stunned silence
>>
>> Florida cornerback Joe Haden said the locker room
>> was beyond just a little quiet after the defeat.
>>
>> "You could have heard a pin drop," he said. "There
>> was nobody talking, nobody saying anything. People
>> were just sitting at their lockers in full pads. .
>> . . We're going to keep fighting and try to finish
>> off our season undefeated."
>>
>>
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