If I was in charge - I would forfeit all FSU degrees or 5 years - making them worthless. 
 
On second thought, they are already worthless, so that is not really punishment. 
 
Seriously, I am just thrilled (and surprised) that they got any punishment at all.  For so many DECADES they have been the most cheatinist, lyinist, back stabbinist, unethical school around - and NEVER get caught. 
 
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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: F$U's Outcome is EVEN MORE imminently imminent
now, right Jay.....
From: Steve McKibben <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, March 06, 2009 2:25 pm
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According to the Times, the NCAA’s report, which this afternoon will be released to the public, says, “Had no vacation penalty been imposed, the scholarship limitations would have been more stringent.”



This makes no sense to me.  The only one hurt in this is Bowden, who may be forced to concede the all time wins record to Joe Paterno now.

Were the athletes, academic advisors, or administrators that were tasked to oversee the athletic department punished? Not so much.

Recruiting is the lifeblood of a college football program. If the NCAA had wanted to make FSU feel the sting for it's cheating, to make them really regret their actions, and to send a message to any other programs that might be tempted to use the same shortcuts, they would have imposed scholarship reductions (such as the ones UF endured in the mid 80s) that would have hurt the program's ability to be competitive for a number of years to come.

Considering that FSU was in a sticky situation of its own doing by having the clock ticking on a payout to coach in waiting Jimbo Fisher if he wasn't named the head coach by 2011, while at the same time being in the awkward position of not wanting to fire the man who made their program, the NCAA may have done them a favor.

Having some of his ill gotten victories taken away may convince Bowden to give up  his stubborn pursuit of the all time victories crown, and if he steps down (after the obligatory farewell tour in 2009) FSU will not only not have to pay the lump sum to Fisher, the program will finally be able to begin the post-Bowden era and get the breath of fresh air that it certainly needs to be a player on the national stage again.

Color me disappointed that the NCAA once again proved to be a paper tiger.