Terry and Jeff are coaching at the U of North Alabama http://www.roarlions.com/Lion_Sports/Football/index.html
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Gatornet Admin <[email protected]> wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that he is the last Bowden in coaching? What > happened to Tommy when Clemson canned him? > > > > Randy > > > > *From:* Arthur Polhill [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:49 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > > > Bowden's toast! > > > A. Leon Polhill, Gator > "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. > I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Gatornet Admin <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wed, December 2, 2009 7:39:39 PM > *Subject:* RE: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > WOOHOO!!! He’s on a roll! Hey, Leon! Tell us how you REALLY feel! J > > > > Randy > > > > *From:* Arthur Polhill [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > > > We beat the $hit out of the greatest is the story I'm sticking with. He > was a d...@mn genius of college football and we beat his a$$. That's my > story and I'm sticking to it. He preached in Baptist churches and had God > in his quiver and we beat his sorry a$$. That's my story and I'm sticking > to it. He was a wonderful grandfather, and all his grandkids will remember > him for is that he was fired/"resigned" after being beaten nearly to > death by the Gators like a child's Christmas drum. That too is my story, > and you know the rest. And, his wife will know...even she will know...that > after all of that...his last game as a coach on earth will be in the GATOR > BOWL WITH ALLTEL PHONES! > > > > That is my story and I'm sticking to it. > > > A. Leon Polhill, Gator > "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. > I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *To:* Gator Talk <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Wed, December 2, 2009 9:31:05 AM > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > You're correct, I think, in saying Bowden is a win at all costs guy. > No one has mentioned the "Polish rules" he used to keep his kicker around. > But, he really is a good person too. He has done a lot of good things over > the course of his career, none of which presently come to mind. > I'm afraid we tend to watch him through Orange and Blue glasses and thus > distort his good side. He'll be remembered as one of the greatest and that's > not all bad. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > > *From: *[email protected] > > *Date: *Wed, 2 Dec 2009 14:08:41 +0000 > > *To: *<[email protected]> > > *Subject: *Re: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > > > Jerry: > > You are obviously a nicer person than I am (that isn't hard, I can hear my > wife say). > > I agree with you on Bowden losing his mental capabilities since back in the > '90s. I think that is indisputable. > > Regarding his character, we have witnessed so many low, dirty actions > ourselves over many years. My initial opinion of Bowden was that he had been > an honest coach until a six-year losing streak to us (1981 - 1986) drove him > to the dark side. > > However, back in the early '90s I met a man who had been a sportswriter and > editor before making a career change. When we first started talking about > college football, without any prompting from me, he explained that he had > covered West Virginia football back when Bowden was their coach, and > launched into a scathing attack on Bowden, telling me that the guy had taken > players from the local prison, and would do anything, no matter how > underhanded, to win. > > I was shocked to hear this about Bowden, since at the time I also thought > he was a good guy and a good coach. But since then, we've seen all the > behavior this former sports writer told me he had witnessed at West > Virginia. > > Anyway, I do believe Bowden was a win-at-all-costs guy, and if he didn't > explicitly endorse some of the tactics of his program, he at least turned a > blind eye to them. > > > Go Gators!!!! > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > ------------------------------ > > *From: *Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> > > *Date: *Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:01:14 -0500 > > *To: *<[email protected]> > > *Subject: *RE: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > > > Ken, > > > > I am a little more charitable in his case. I actually believe that for at > least the last 10 years, Bobby Bowden has been suffering from mental > degradation. Even when SOS was coach, he could not seem to remember his > players’ names. He had been smart enough to surround himself with some > pretty smart coaches with Andrews and Richt. I think for many years he has > been a titular head coach with others making most all of the administrative > decisions. I think that he is basically an honest man but not a deep > thinker. For example, I remember his famous, “hitting on the echo” > comment. I think he thought it was a joke and I really don’t think he > thought too much about what example that was setting. I do have some > reservations about some of his assistant coaches and even though it pains me > to talk bad about a former Gator, Mickey Andrews was probably one of the > worst to push the envelope of sportsmanlike play. > > > > Jerry > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:57 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden > a good guy? > > > > Bowden was and remains a sleazeball. He always knew how to work the media, > so he rarely suffered bad press, and they certainly won't start now. It > would seem as if they are beating up on a helpless old man. If they > continued to kiss his butt after the "Tainted Title" scandal, we shouldn't > expect anything truthful and objective about him now. > > Bowden has been spewing his BS for so long, at this point, he may actually > believe it himself. > > Regardless of what he thinks or wants to think, he was a guy who was > obsessed with his image and PR. Remember how upset he was when SOS called > him out on his team's dirty play? He didn't address the charges directly, > just moaned that he wished Steve hadn't said what he said. > > Yes, he built a program back in the '70s and '80s by traveling to Lincoln > and other places and taking on the big football powers. One can respect > that. However, he also ran one of the dirtiest programs in the country. > > I believe one should judge a person by his actions more than his words. I > think the balance of Bowden's actions over the course of his adult life were > dishonest. Just because few ever called him on it doesn't make it any less > true. > > Go Gators!!!! > > Ken B. (NYC Gator) > > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed > ------------------------------ > > *From: *<[email protected]> > > *Date: *Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:22:15 -0700 > > *To: *gatortalk googlegroups<[email protected]> > > *Subject: *[gatortalk] Am I completely and total biased - or is Bowden a > good guy? > > > > I threw up on my beautiful high def TV today during ESPN's College Football > Live show. > > > > Bowden was on there saying that he wants to be remembered for all the great > things he did for his players and for making them into such outstanding > members of the community (or something like that). > > > > My opinion of Bobby Bowden is that he is the dirty-est, lying-est, back > stabbing-est, cheating-est, but best coverer upper, in the business. > > > > All these other people are going on and on about what a great person Bowden > is - and I think he is the biggest snake in the grass in the business. > > > > So am I biased or is Bowden a saint? > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
