I'm against selling alcohol at college football games because I think it
would be detrimental to the experience of a lot of fans. Bad behavior of
drunk fans is a major reason that we don't go to Bucs games.

I wouldn't mind selling beer at basketball games because I don't think bad
behavior would be as much of a problem. The game is shorter, you don't have
extended tailgating/drinking before the game and fans are just less rowdy in
general. However, I suppose you wouldn't be able to do it for basketball
without doing it for football.

Helen





On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jerry Belloit <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I am not sure this is a good idea.  My wife and I quit going to the
> Florida-Georgia game even though I had season tickets because of all of the
> drunkenness that went on at that game.  The vulgar language, spilled drinks,
> and fighting were just too much.  I can only imagine that selling beer would
> make it worse.****
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> That being said, it is just a shame that the actions of a few can ruin
> things for the majority.  While I personally do not drink, last year at the
> Ohio game (at my first game in 20 years) I will admit that a cool beer would
> have been refreshing in that heat!****
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> Jerry****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Woody Bass
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 03, 2011 7:58 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [gatornews] CFN.com: Point/Counter: Should Beer Be Sold At
> Games?****
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> Point/Counter: Should Beer Be Sold At Games? ****
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> *By Staff*****
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> CollegeFootballNews.com
> Posted Jul 2, 2011****
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> *West Virginia is choosing to start selling beer at games, is this a good
> idea or a bad one? Jacob Thorpe and Mike Vernon discuss both sides.*****
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> *Point/Counterpoint**
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> Should Beer Be Sold At Games?*
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> Jacob Thorpe <[email protected]> – *Bad Idea*
> *Follow me on Twitter: @jacobt1991 <http://www.twitter.com/jacobt1991>*
>
> The administrators at West Virginia University are certainly taking steps
> to ensure that their decision to sell beer during football and basketball
> games goes off without a hitch. Patrons can only buy two beers at a time,
> all must present a valid ID and there will be increased security. To limit
> the number of fans driving home drunk, the school will stop selling beer
> during the third quarter.
>
> Yep, it seems like the Mountaineer administration has got all of its bases
> covered.
>
> But aren't all of these steps a tacit admission that selling beer will
> cause an awful lot of problems? Increased security means the school expects
> more unruly fans, and expects to be throwing more people out games. This
> from a school whose fans made the papers last year for throwing objects on
> the court at a basketball game giving a Pittsburgh assistant -- as well as
> the school’s public image -- a black eye.
>
> Stopping sales in the third quarter is a nice touch, but it’s not going to
> be enough time to let the thirstier fans sober up. The roads away from the
> stadium after a football game are already full of semi-lost drivers trying
> uncomfortably to find their way back to the freeway. Adding a bunch of drunk
> drivers will just be throwing a match on the powder keg.
>
> There will be more accidents, injuries and even deaths, guaranteed. Is the
> extra revenue really worth it? The fact is that in the United States we are
> fortunate enough to have both college and professional sports. The pros
> allow a place where people can go watch adults play the game, and get
> hammered while they do it. College athletics has always been about a more
> family-friendly atmosphere. The athletes are still kids, and it’s fun for
> parents to bring their children to their alma maters and root for the home
> team.
>
> Both are fun in their own, unique way. There’s no reason to try and merge
> the two. If even one person loses their life because of this decision, it
> obviously won't be worth it.
>
> Mike Vernon <[email protected]> – *Good Idea*
> *Follow me on Twitter: @m_vernon <http://www.twitter.com/m_vernon>*
>
> Whether you like it or not, college football has become of a world of haves
> and have-nots. Schools like Texas and Alabama have everything they need to
> compete for their conference title and the national title year after year.
> Other schools, stuck in the middle of the pack, are left struggling to win
> games and get fans in the seats on a consistent basis. There are many
> factors that cause the rift between the top and the middle, prestige,
> coaching, scouting, quality of players, and more.
>
> In the end, unfortunately, it ends up all boiling down to one major issue,
> one major difference between the few top dogs and the many dogs struggling
> to get their one bone — money.
>
> There is one option they do have that can help. It doesn’t end with this
> change, but it’s, at the very least, a start. They let beer be sold at their
> games.
>
> Even though some people would like to think otherwise, beer has become a
> major part of college football games for college students. Often times,
> students will choose to stay at their beer-soaked tailgate rather than go to
> the game itself. Even more likely, students will leave games at halftime to
> go continue their pre-game drinking — not exactly conducive fan behavior for
> building a big time college football program. In Morgantown, WV., they’re
> far ahead of the curve. One of the more fortunate programs in college
> football, West Virginia, recently passed an amendment to proposition 18 —
> allowing beer to be sold in their stadium.
>
> The change to the policy come with plenty of rules, no beer can be sold in
> the student sections, a valid I.D. is required, and only two beers can be
> purchased at a time. Instead of sitting back and doing nothing, West
> Virginia is trying to be proactive. A supporter of the amendment, the WVU
> Police Chief believes selling beer in the stadium will help eliminate binge
> drinking. The reasoning behind his support: students often binge drink
> before games, knowing they won’t be able to drink in the stadium.
>
> They’ve accepted that the students will drink and they’re trying to do
> something about controlling the amount they drink. Along with hoping this
> will help student safety, the plan is awful lucrative. Athletic Director
> Oliver Luck expects the new rules to bring in an added $500,000 to $1.2
> million  — and that’s for a school that already sells out its games.
>
> Imagine the dollars that a similar change at a school with lesser fan
> support could bring in. More money means better facilities, recruiting
> opportunities, and fan amenities, which could in-turn, bring even more fans
> to the games. A louder, rowdier stadium will only help teams win games,
> helping the stadiums remain full. In the end, an array of different aspects
> of the game can turn a college football program from a hungry dog, to an
> award winning one.
>
> It’s only a start, a potential spark perhaps, but selling alcohol at
> college football games is a way to commence turning things around at
> programs that need it most. ****
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