how is this any different than getting snockered before the game right
outside the stadium? Atleast then the University might be able to use
those funds to prevent increases in tuition.
On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:52 PM, Charles Simpson wrote:
I haven’t been to a pro game in many, many years but I do recall the
crowd being very drunk and rowdy. There were several fights and a
lot of very coarse insults being yelled back and forth. This was at
a Monday night game between the Dolphins and the Jets. I suspect the
Monday night games are more rowdy.
I’m kind of surprised to see West Virginia do this. They are a
pretty rowdy bunch up there anyway so with this added fuel who knows.
Charlie
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I wondered about pro games, Helen. I had hoped that perhaps the
crowd was older and more mature. You would think that if people
were paying that much to see a football game, they might want to be
sober enough to actually see it.
Jerry
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I'm against selling alcohol at college football games because I
think it would be detrimental to the experience of a lot of fans.
Bad behavior of drunk fans is a major reason that we don't go to
Bucs games.
I wouldn't mind selling beer at basketball games because I don't
think bad behavior would be as much of a problem. The game is
shorter, you don't have extended tailgating/drinking before the game
and fans are just less rowdy in general. However, I suppose you
wouldn't be able to do it for basketball without doing it for
football.
Helen
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Jerry Belloit <[email protected]>
wrote:
I am not sure this is a good idea. My wife and I quit going to the
Florida-Georgia game even though I had season tickets because of all
of the drunkenness that went on at that game. The vulgar language,
spilled drinks, and fighting were just too much. I can only imagine
that selling beer would make it worse.
That being said, it is just a shame that the actions of a few can
ruin things for the majority. While I personally do not drink, last
year at the Ohio game (at my first game in 20 years) I will admit
that a cool beer would have been refreshing in that heat!
Jerry
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By Staff
CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted Jul 2, 2011
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West Virginia is choosing to start selling beer at games, is this a
good idea or a bad one? Jacob Thorpe and Mike Vernon discuss both
sides.
Point/Counterpoint
Should Beer Be Sold At Games?
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Jacob Thorpe – Bad Idea
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The administrators at West Virginia University are certainly taking
steps to ensure that their decision to sell beer during football and
basketball games goes off without a hitch. Patrons can only buy two
beers at a time, all must present a valid ID and there will be
increased security. To limit the number of fans driving home drunk,
the school will stop selling beer during the third quarter.
Yep, it seems like the Mountaineer administration has got all of its
bases covered.
But aren't all of these steps a tacit admission that selling beer
will cause an awful lot of problems? Increased security means the
school expects more unruly fans, and expects to be throwing more
people out games. This from a school whose fans made the papers last
year for throwing objects on the court at a basketball game giving a
Pittsburgh assistant -- as well as the school’s public image -- a
black eye.
Stopping sales in the third quarter is a nice touch, but it’s not
going to be enough time to let the thirstier fans sober up. The
roads away from the stadium after a football game are already full
of semi-lost drivers trying uncomfortably to find their way back to
the freeway. Adding a bunch of drunk drivers will just be throwing a
match on the powder keg.
There will be more accidents, injuries and even deaths, guaranteed.
Is the extra revenue really worth it? The fact is that in the United
States we are fortunate enough to have both college and professional
sports. The pros allow a place where people can go watch adults play
the game, and get hammered while they do it. College athletics has
always been about a more family-friendly atmosphere. The athletes
are still kids, and it’s fun for parents to bring their children to
their alma maters and root for the home team.
Both are fun in their own, unique way. There’s no reason to try and
merge the two. If even one person loses their life because of this
decision, it obviously won't be worth it.
Mike Vernon – Good Idea
Follow me on Twitter: @m_vernon
Whether you like it or not, college football has become of a world
of haves and have-nots. Schools like Texas and Alabama have
everything they need to compete for their conference title and the
national title year after year. Other schools, stuck in the middle
of the pack, are left struggling to win games and get fans in the
seats on a consistent basis. There are many factors that cause the
rift between the top and the middle, prestige, coaching, scouting,
quality of players, and more.
In the end, unfortunately, it ends up all boiling down to one major
issue, one major difference between the few top dogs and the many
dogs struggling to get their one bone — money.
There is one option they do have that can help. It doesn’t end with
this change, but it’s, at the very least, a start. They let beer be
sold at their games.
Even though some people would like to think otherwise, beer has
become a major part of college football games for college students.
Often times, students will choose to stay at their beer-soaked
tailgate rather than go to the game itself. Even more likely,
students will leave games at halftime to go continue their pre-game
drinking — not exactly conducive fan behavior for building a big
time college football program. In Morgantown, WV., they’re far ahead
of the curve. One of the more fortunate programs in college
football, West Virginia, recently passed an amendment to proposition
18 — allowing beer to be sold in their stadium.
The change to the policy come with plenty of rules, no beer can be
sold in the student sections, a valid I.D. is required, and only two
beers can be purchased at a time. Instead of sitting back and doing
nothing, West Virginia is trying to be proactive. A supporter of the
amendment, the WVU Police Chief believes selling beer in the stadium
will help eliminate binge drinking. The reasoning behind his
support: students often binge drink before games, knowing they won’t
be able to drink in the stadium.
They’ve accepted that the students will drink and they’re trying to
do something about controlling the amount they drink. Along with
hoping this will help student safety, the plan is awful lucrative.
Athletic Director Oliver Luck expects the new rules to bring in an
added $500,000 to $1.2 million — and that’s for a school that
already sells out its games.
Imagine the dollars that a similar change at a school with lesser
fan support could bring in. More money means better facilities,
recruiting opportunities, and fan amenities, which could in-turn,
bring even more fans to the games. A louder, rowdier stadium will
only help teams win games, helping the stadiums remain full. In the
end, an array of different aspects of the game can turn a college
football program from a hungry dog, to an award winning one.
It’s only a start, a potential spark perhaps, but selling alcohol at
college football games is a way to commence turning things around at
programs that need it most.
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