Thanks, Stephen. I just wanted to get a thread rolling. I know this was 
mentioned last week, but what exactly is the deal with our numbers being down 
so much? I thought we had very highly rated recruiting classes more years than 
not recently. I don't understand the process. Can you help explain for me and 
maybe others less informed?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Stephen Manuel
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] does anyone think...

Coaching is one thing, but lack of talent is another, you could dig up Vince 
Lombardi and he would have similar issues. At the SEC level of play, you don't 
go from a 5th year senior QB to a true freshman and expect to have reasonable 
production.

I was watching the Patriots game yesterday, Brandon Spikes was the starting 
MLB, Aaron Hernandez caught 8 passes for about 90 yards and the game winning 
TD. When those 2 left we replaced them with Jon Bostic and Jordon Reed. Think 
about that for a second.

Think back to 2009, we went 13-1 but all of us on this list complained over and 
over about the production of the offense, we had 1st rounders in the Pouncy 
Brothers and Tebow, plus thrown in Marcus Gilbert 2nd rounder starting for the 
Steelers, Hernandez starting for the Patriots, Riley Cooper and Louis Murphy 
were the WR's on the offense and are on NFL rosters and we still struggled.

In 2010 we lost all those guys and went 7-5 and changed coaches.

In 2011, we have around 55 players who are healthy and ready to play, we are 
REALLY down in numbers, until we get that corrected things won't be back to 
where we all want to be.



Stephen Manuel

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Jay Cicone
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [gatortalk] does anyone think...


....that the lack of offensive production----take away the touchdown against 
Bama and we have only 4 field goals to show over 3 games---is somewhat due to a 
demoralized offense which is seeing spotty play? I see Reed, the o-line and 
others, playing hard and smart on some downs and flat loafing and not finishing 
on others. I have to think we have a coaching problem with getting these kids 
focused and playing 100% for every play, the entire play. I fear that this lack 
of production will eventually start to demoralize the defense. I throw this out 
there for you guys to expand on. I just don't see how the loss of Brantley 
could destroy our offense so completely. Injuries? Are they really so bad that 
we can't block, run, catch, finish routes, etc....?
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