Right now UF has 70 players on Scholarship, that includes walkons like David Lerner the punter, I haven't looked but our competitors have 85 or close to it, so right off we are down 15 players compared to other teams. Out of that 15, suppose we had a solid backup QB like Eric Kresser, a solid LB like Brandon Spikes, Riley Cooper or David Nelson at WR, I could go on.
Out of the 70 players on scholarship, we have players injured, suspended or out for some other reason. Saturday night, Brantley, Demps, Dunbar, Debose, and Sturgis out with some kind of injury. On defense, we were missing Powell, Josh Evans and others, then take out the redshirt players and we get to the mid-50s really quickly. You can recruit all the 4 and 5 star players you want but if they aren't here or injured they don't really help you. Here's the link I posted last week, it goes into much greater detail on the issue, it breaks down the last 5 recruiting classes. http://www.teamspeedkills.com/2011/10/10/2481539/where-did-all-the-gators-go Stephen Manuel From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mail.bobparks.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] does anyone think... We've had a pretty high attrition rate combined with Muschamp deciding to save scholarships for quality players next spring. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker Bob Parks, LLC 1517 Hunt Club Blvd Gallatin TN 37066 615-972-4239 615-826-4040 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 17, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Jay Cicone <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Stephen. I just wanted to get a thread rolling. I know this was mentioned last week, but what exactly is the deal with our numbers being down so much? I thought we had very highly rated recruiting classes more years than not recently. I don't understand the process. Can you help explain for me and maybe others less informed? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Manuel Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [gatortalk] does anyone think... Coaching is one thing, but lack of talent is another, you could dig up Vince Lombardi and he would have similar issues. At the SEC level of play, you don't go from a 5th year senior QB to a true freshman and expect to have reasonable production. I was watching the Patriots game yesterday, Brandon Spikes was the starting MLB, Aaron Hernandez caught 8 passes for about 90 yards and the game winning TD. When those 2 left we replaced them with Jon Bostic and Jordon Reed. Think about that for a second. Think back to 2009, we went 13-1 but all of us on this list complained over and over about the production of the offense, we had 1st rounders in the Pouncy Brothers and Tebow, plus thrown in Marcus Gilbert 2nd rounder starting for the Steelers, Hernandez starting for the Patriots, Riley Cooper and Louis Murphy were the WR's on the offense and are on NFL rosters and we still struggled. In 2010 we lost all those guys and went 7-5 and changed coaches. In 2011, we have around 55 players who are healthy and ready to play, we are REALLY down in numbers, until we get that corrected things won't be back to where we all want to be. Stephen Manuel From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jay Cicone Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 9:39 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [gatortalk] does anyone think... ..that the lack of offensive production----take away the touchdown against Bama and we have only 4 field goals to show over 3 games---is somewhat due to a demoralized offense which is seeing spotty play? I see Reed, the o-line and others, playing hard and smart on some downs and flat loafing and not finishing on others. I have to think we have a coaching problem with getting these kids focused and playing 100% for every play, the entire play. I fear that this lack of production will eventually start to demoralize the defense. I throw this out there for you guys to expand on. I just don't see how the loss of Brantley could destroy our offense so completely. Injuries? Are they really so bad that we can't block, run, catch, finish routes, etc..? -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
