Im not questioning Weis as a OC... im questioning him as a QB coach...
teaching mechanics, etc.  I will give him this.. Brantley looked alot better
this year..but I think that more indicative of a system more suited and more
comfortable to him than what he was in last year.   Im not asking Weis to be
fired or anything like that... he hasnt had enough time to get his system
established at UF.  Im willing to give him time... I am just very curious to
understand what Brissett has shown especially when Driskell has had more to
learn the system right now.  Does Driskell have work to do.. yes.. he's got
to get rid of the happy feet... but he has had more time.. Brissett was
thrown to the fire with barely any time in the system at all.  And if
Brissett was the #2... why was he taken out of the game in favor of
Driskell?

Woody

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Stephen Manuel <[email protected]>wrote:

> What's stunning to me is how after 7 games some are ready to ditch Charlie
> Weis over his choice for backup QB....Neither has done anything imo to
> distance themselves from each other, so how can anyone have a concrete
> opinion is beyond me.  Think about it, we are talking about the BACKUP QB,
> most teams that have to resort to the backup and doomed to begin with.
>
> None of us have been to 1 practice, none of us have been to 1 meeting,
> basically all we've seen is parts of 3 games against 2 of the best teams in
> the nation by true freshmen and we've seen the light. The same  reasoning
> applies to Gillislee, two different coaching staffs have determined he's
> not
> the answer and fans who have never been to practice have determined
> otherwise, that blows my mind.
>
> People want to twist and turn facts in a way to support their position.
> Brady's stats were better without Weis, Quinn and Claussen have done
> nothing
> in the NFL....etc...
>
> Some facts to counter, Brady wasn't even the starter in college, Brian
> Griese was, Brady was a 7th round draft pick who is now a 3 time Super Bowl
> winner and 1st ballot hall of famer.  To say he doesn't deserve  credit for
> some of his success is stunning.
>
> Danny Wuerffel wasn't successful in the NFL, but that doesn't dismiss his
> college accomplishments or that SOS was a great offensive mind, so Quinn
> and
> Claussen's success in the NFL should have nothing to do with how good or
> bad
> Weis is as a offensive coordinator.
>
> Look no one is happy with the season. I got into a heated discussion with a
> Gator Fan over the weekend, he was dead set on firing Muschamp at the end
> of
> the season and beginning the search for a new coach right now, he told me
> that he knew it was going to be a disaster after the spring game last
> april.
> I was floored, how someone can determine the future of the program after
> one
> scrimmage is dumbfounding.....I told him that firing a coach after 7 games
> is colossally stupid, you simply can't do that, unless you have evidence of
> a crime or serious cheating or some other off the field issue.
>
> The one sure fire way to set the program back for years is to have knee
> jerk
> reactions and fire coaches who have proven track records or overreacting to
> one bad season......3 years and then decide just like Zook, anything before
> that is simply bad for the program in the long run.
>
>
> Stephen Manuel
>
> Well he is in my opinion just as ready as Driskell.  Driskell has showed me
> nothing that gets me all excited.  I do think that Brissett has
> demonstrated
> more of the pro style (classic drop back) characteristics than Driskell has
> at this point.  I think Brissett was recruited by Weis and Company because
> he met more of those position criteria I discussed in a previous post than
> Driskell did.  Based on the recruiting stories I read, I am convinced that
> Brissett was Weis's choice over Driskell for whatever reasons.  I think
> Driskell weak play and injury gave Weis the opportunity to get Brissett in
> the game, partly out of necessity and partly to begin the process of
> getting
> everyone acclimated to the fact that the more highly rated quarterback is
> not what is wanted at quarterback.  As to whether I think Weis is a good
> coach, ask me in 4 years when Brissett and Driskel are seniors, although I
> doubt both will make it to their senior year at Florida.
>
> JAFO
>
>
> Randy Platt
> aka "PCGator"
> aka "The Armchair Quarterback"
> aka "The Other Randy"
>
> Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Woody Bass
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:55 PM
> To: Gatortalk
> Subject: [gatortalk] Brissett vs Driskell
>
> so "reportedly".. Brissett is Plan B behind Brantley.  If you havent
> watched
> Weis press conference yet.. its up on GatorVision right now...
>
> and I am sorry.. he's got the Urban face.. in other words.. he doesnt lie
> very well.  Not sure what he see's in Brissett that gives him reason to
> believe he's the #2.. because what I saw of him... it looked like he had a
> long.. long LONNGGGG way to go before he was going to be ready.
>
> But... I do not have confidence in Weis as a QB coach.  Im sorry.. I dont.
> I have said it before.. I dont care where he's been or what he's
> accomplished before now... its not exactly like the two QBs he coached at
> Notre Dame are shining in the NFL.  One is sitting behind what many talk
> about as a QB who will never succeed as a QB in the NFL (Quinn behind
> Tebow)
> and the other only played in the NFL one year and was dropped to #3 on the
> depth chart for a team that ends up drafting another QB  in the last draft
> and is #1 on the depth chart  (Clausen)
>
> Someone needs to explain this to me.  Because I dont see how Brissett
> is #2.  Not saying he cant be developed.. but right now.. game ready?
> no.. no way he is ready to be #2.
>
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