Now that we have officially opened this can of worms. Put me in the Grier camp. Now I will be the first to admit I can't decide if I like Grier because he is the first Florida quarterback since Chris Leak was the quarterback to throw the football before the receiver makes his break or I am just tired of spread style quarterbacks but I think he is the best quarterback. I think Harris holds the ball too long or is too indecisive. I do believe we can win with Harris, but I just do not think my heart can stand all the playground theatrics that come with it. I do think Harris is amazing in his ability to make something happen out of nothing, but I believe he puts himself in those situations because he didn't make a throw when he should. I do not think Harris has Grier's arm strength nor do I believe Harris could have made either TD throw the Grier threw to Lewis in the first game or Robinson in the second, both of those throws were laser beams into tight windows. Yes, Grier threw a couple of poor passes on Saturday night that any respectable SEC secondary would have intercepted, but the kid has barely a whole game under his belt, the question is can he learn from his mistakes. Based on what I have seen so far, I feel a whole lot better about our passing with Grier at qb than Harris.
JAFO Randy Platt aka "PCGator" aka "The Armchair Quarterback" aka "The Other Randy" Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 3:06 PM To: Gatortalk Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Mac said today he hasnt made a decision one way or the other.. but.. i think he's still think its Griers to lose.. and I think they have made a decision. This is a "lets not give the other guys too much of an upper hand" thing now. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Oliver Barry <[email protected]> wrote: I think Treon is as good as he was last year. Grier improved from last week. Not late in the game… You don’t take a hot hand out of the game and let him sit for an hour and then expect him to come back in. That’s why we need one or the other to be the man. Make a decision. If I were coach, I’d start Grier. Of course, if I were coach everybody would be mad at me. The team would be really bad. And, I would have been fired after two games. But… at least I would have made a decision on the starting quarterback. Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI Real Estate Broker PARKS 305B Indian Lake Blvd Suite 220 Hendersonville TN 37075 Phone: 615-826-4040 Mobile: 615-972-4239 [email protected] From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Woody Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Watched the game again yesterday and disagree about Treon having a better arm for the deep ball. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, 11:04 AM 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk <[email protected]> wrote: I think you are right. He has GREAT velocity on the ball. Maybe too much at times and needs some touch sometimes, but Treon doesn't seem to really whip it in there when needed. His ball tends to float more-- which is great for the longer passes and ones where he throws to a spot but is a problem when working the middle of the field or throwing between the zones. _____ From: Woody <[email protected]> To: Gatortalk <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Grier. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk <[email protected]> wrote: Exactly my point... he did not admonish privately. He made it very public for a very good reason and it was very intentionally done that way. That is not at all how Muschamp did it... his ranting and raving were very personally directed, almost attacking, while this was done in a manner which puts the team into perspective. I saw that tweet as well... it further underscores that McElwain made his point and it was properly done and received. Changing the subject... Who starts this week against UK? _____ From: Jerry D. Belloit <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Scott, the reason the team was surrounding Taylor was that Coach Mac called them together. He started by having Taylor look at everyone his action had hurt. I saw a tweet by Tayor today. He affirmed that Mac is a great coach and was just trying to make him a better man. It may be that he got the message. Jerry From: GatorTalk <[email protected]> Reply-To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM To: GatorTalk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Kinda upset? Do you think it was unwarranted? Do you think he was out of line? If my players blatantly disobeyed or did something I specifically said not to do, they could probably expect the same... This is not care bear football. These are athletes in which the university has greatly invested in or is willing to do so. If they can't hack it, or the parents can't, maybe they should go. I coach football. I expect far more from my players in the locker room than any joe shmoe fan would ever expect. They are students first, athletes second, and their responsibility is to their teammates is far before themselves. The idea that the coach should not be mad or upset or express it is just plain foreign to me. You wouldn't let your own kids get away with irresponsibility and disobediance, would you? How would you have him express it? I found it VERY telling that he did NOT chew him out by himself and isolated. He was surrounded by a whole bunch of players. So was that a teaching moment or a made for TV moment? He had a circle of players-- many I did not even recognize, surrounding Taylor. I imagine it was both moments. McElwain is building something here. He is changing a culture of a lack of accountability. He held a star to a higher standard in front of a group of players. While I normally subscribe to the "praise in public, admonish in private", that was a very public and teachable moment-- for Taylor and the whole team and nation. That is NOT what the Gators represent. He is trying to show that-- to parents, to recruits, to fans.... To not come down hard on Taylor condones it... I have no problem with McElwain's handling of the situation. If it was not "made of TV", then why was Taylor in the next series? There is more to this than meets the eye... Look big picture. _____ From: C. Simpson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow! Unfortunately all the players except the true freshmen have witnessed ranting and raving first hand the past few years. I was kind of disappointed in coach's behavior on the sidelines. Hopefully imo he can figure out a way going forward to correct the problem. Charlie On 9/13/2015 11:27 AM, [email protected] wrote: The way he chewed out Kelvin Taylor after the "slashing" personal foul after the TD shows how angry he was at the entire team play. They better get it together going into the meat of the season, starting next week!!! _____ From: "Jay Cicone" <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:22:34 AM Subject: [gatortalk] yow! Any of you watch Mac’s post game talk. He is seething and very, very disturbed to the point of being near speechless. The offending players are going to have to make a decision NOW or they’re done, gone, maybe even off the team. This looks really ugly. Hopefully he will have the strength to hold back physically. 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