I like the 2 floppy idea. Even 1 Floppy and a Zip Drive would be nice. While GNATBOX can run on a 486 I'm always purchasing a new system for each setup and the simple floppy approch keeps is nice and small. We might have trouble running two floppies on a 2U case so maybe a Floppy CD-Rom solution is even better. The config and boot is save on the floppy and all the code is on the CD.
Steve -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Colp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Storage options for GNAT Box Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access the list archives at: http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ ---------------------------------- Hey folks... Sorry to add to this chain after Paul asked not to be bugged about it any further, but I have an idea... What about using two floppy drives? This will more than double the amount of space you have to play with because you don't need the OS on the second floppy, and you won't need to swap diskettes because they are both sitting in their own drives. Floppy drives are reliable, shock resistant, compatible, inexpensive and familiar (among other things). The boot code and most of the program code can be on the first disk, the configuration and remaining code can go on the second disk. If you make configuration changes, you only need to update the second floppy. Keep it simple, yes? Ryan Colp Network Specialist Canadian Systems Integration Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Michael W. Burden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Storage options for GNAT Box (Was: RE: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ??) Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access the list archives at: http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ ---------------------------------- Speaking only for myself, the problem with CDR is that I administrate all of my Customer's GNAT Boxes from my office. Currently, I can use GBAdmin to make a config change, and then save a copy locally so that if they should have a media failure I will have a current copy. With CDR, I wouldn't be able to make changes to a Customer's GNAT Box on a moments notice. IMHO, two changes to GNAT Box could assure its future success: 1. Modularization (as Paul has already mentioned) would allow users to pick and choose the features they need, while still retaining the ability to fit on a floppy. If a GNAT Box user needs more features than will fit on a floppy, then see (2) below. 2. Divorcing the GNAT Box from its fd0 (A: for you DOS/Windows people) dependency. It looks like GTA has already taken steps in this direction with the GB-100. By simply allowing the users to have the ability to install the GNAT Box software on any bootable media, GNAT Box users would be free to install GNAT Box on media that is more than sufficient to contain any configuration that GTA may want to deliver. I *WOULD* like to see the core GNAT Box functionality remain small enough to fit on a floppy. Floppy drives and disks are easy to come by and (almost) never have compatibility problems. Keeping the core program small also helps keep GNAT Box in front of the pack, performance-wise. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott England Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access the list archives at: http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ ---------------------------------- What about the possibility of running off of cdrom. I would like to be able to setup a box (on a hard drive first?) and the dump an ISO image to cd. Since all the logging is done remotely it would allow me to have an read-only boot media and the only part that could be comprimised would be what's in memory. With the low cost of cdr's these days having to reburn when I make a change is not really an issue with me. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Emerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:50 AM To: Michael Little Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access the list archives at: http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ ---------------------------------- VPN had priority over the DHCP server in this release. The DHCP server and the VPN will most certainly not co-exist on the floppy disk version of GNAT Box, (there simply is no more space left). As for the GB-100 the DHCP server will have no problem fitting on it. We have a project in the works investigating the future direction of the software only version of GNAT Box. Paul >What happened to the DHCP server?? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Paul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 7:50 AM >Subject: Re: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? > > >> Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Access the list archives at: >> http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ >> ---------------------------------- >> >> We haven't investigated the Win2K IPSec client, since the initial VPN >> release (3.0.2) is targeted for network to network connectivity. >> However the software doesn't exclude connections by IPSec client >> software, it just doesn't facilitate them. So the Win2K IPSec client >> may work, but most likely it will not. The reason is that our >> initial release only supports the use of manual key exchange and most >> of these workstation clients only support IKE (automated key >> exchange). IPSec implementations for Linux (Free S/Wan) and BSD Unix >> system (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) most likely will work fine with >> GNAT Box. FreeBSD has been tested since it's our platform of choice >> here at GTA. >> >> Our plan is to have the next VPN release of GNAT Box support IKE, >> hopefully sometime in the Spring. At that time I would suspect most >> of the PC/MAC IPSec clients will work just fine. >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >Access the list archives at: >> >http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ >> >---------------------------------- >> >Will Win2k work as a client for 3.0.2? >> > >> >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q240/2/62.ASP >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Paul Emerson Tel: +1.407.380.0220 x106 >> Global Technology Associates, Inc. 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