The beauty of the two-floppy option is that the second drive can be optional. GTA could put all of the currently existing core functionality on one disk for those who use just the basic features. Perhaps most of the installations will be using single drives and diskettes, and it can be made to work that way. If you want to use extended features such as DHCP and obscure hardware support, you can add the second drive and diskette.
Because the second drive would only be needed for enhanced installations, users of just the core functionality won't have to be bothered with the second floppy. Users who want the advanced features simply have to add a drive and create a second disk. Really simple for most folks, fairly simple for the rest. -Ryan -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Morgen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 11:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Storage options for GNAT Box Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Access the list archives at: http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ ---------------------------------- On Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:29:15 +1000 "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > HUMM.... Yer that founds GOOD the 2 floppy idea :) > Or a option to load the hole thing on to a hdd would also be good :) > GTA has already dismissed the hard drive idea. The two-floppy notion is good, but ironically would probably complicate the installer more than implementing a hard drive option, since you wouldn't want to mandate a two- floppy setup for the many (perhaps the majority of) configurations that could fit on one diskette. > > > > > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > I like the 2 floppy idea. Even 1 Floppy and a Zip Drive would be > nice. While > GNATBOX can run on a 486 I'm always purchasing a new system for each > setup > and the simple floppy approch keeps is nice and small. We might have > trouble > running two floppies on a 2U case so maybe a Floppy CD-Rom solution > is even > better. The config and boot is save on the floppy and all the code > is on the > CD. > > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ryan Colp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Storage options for GNAT Box > > > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > Hey folks... > > Sorry to add to this chain after Paul asked not to be bugged about > it any > further, but I have an idea... > > What about using two floppy drives? This will more than double the > amount > of space you have to play with because you don't need the OS on the > second > floppy, and you won't need to swap diskettes because they are both > sitting > in their own drives. > > Floppy drives are reliable, shock resistant, compatible, inexpensive > and > familiar (among other things). > > The boot code and most of the program code can be on the first disk, > the > configuration and remaining code can go on the second disk. If you > make > configuration changes, you only need to update the second floppy. > > Keep it simple, yes? > > Ryan Colp > Network Specialist > Canadian Systems Integration Limited > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael W. Burden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 12:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Storage options for GNAT Box (Was: RE: Win2k as VPN Client > for > 3.0.2 ??) > > > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > Speaking only for myself, the problem with CDR is that I > administrate > all of my Customer's GNAT Boxes from my office. Currently, I can > use > GBAdmin to make a config change, and then save a copy locally so > that > if they should have a media failure I will have a current copy. > > With CDR, I wouldn't be able to make changes to a Customer's GNAT > Box > on a moments notice. > > IMHO, two changes to GNAT Box could assure its future success: > 1. Modularization (as Paul has already mentioned) would allow users > to pick and choose the features they need, while still retaining > the ability to fit on a floppy. If a GNAT Box user needs more > features than will fit on a floppy, then see (2) below. > 2. Divorcing the GNAT Box from its fd0 (A: for you DOS/Windows > people) dependency. It looks like GTA has already taken steps > in this direction with the GB-100. By simply allowing the users > to have the ability to install the GNAT Box software on any > bootable media, GNAT Box users would be free to install GNAT Box > on media that is more than sufficient to contain any > configuration > that GTA may want to deliver. > > I *WOULD* like to see the core GNAT Box functionality remain small > enough to fit on a floppy. Floppy drives and disks are easy to > come by and (almost) never have compatibility problems. Keeping > the core program small also helps keep GNAT Box in front of the > pack, performance-wise. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > Scott England > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 1:06 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? > > > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > What about the possibility of running off of cdrom. I would like to > be able > to setup a box (on a hard drive first?) and the dump an ISO image to > cd. > Since all the logging is done remotely it would allow me to have an > read-only boot media and the only part that could be comprimised > would be > what's in memory. With the low cost of cdr's these days having to > reburn > when I make a change is not really an issue with me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Emerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:50 AM > To: Michael Little > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? > > > Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Access the list archives at: > http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > ---------------------------------- > > VPN had priority over the DHCP server in this release. > > The DHCP server and the VPN will most certainly not co-exist on the > floppy disk version of GNAT Box, (there simply is no more space > left). As for the GB-100 the DHCP server will have no problem > fitting on it. We have a project in the works investigating the > future direction of the software only version of GNAT Box. > > Paul > > > >What happened to the DHCP server?? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Paul Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 7:50 AM > >Subject: Re: Win2k as VPN Client for 3.0.2 ?? > > > > > >> Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Access the list archives at: > >> http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > >> ---------------------------------- > >> > >> We haven't investigated the Win2K IPSec client, since the > initial VPN > >> release (3.0.2) is targeted for network to network connectivity. > >> However the software doesn't exclude connections by IPSec client > >> software, it just doesn't facilitate them. So the Win2K IPSec > client > >> may work, but most likely it will not. The reason is that our > >> initial release only supports the use of manual key exchange and > most > >> of these workstation clients only support IKE (automated key > >> exchange). IPSec implementations for Linux (Free S/Wan) and BSD > Unix > >> system (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) most likely will work fine > with > >> GNAT Box. FreeBSD has been tested since it's our platform of > choice > >> here at GTA. > >> > >> Our plan is to have the next VPN release of GNAT Box support > IKE, > >> hopefully sometime in the Spring. At that time I would suspect > most > >> of the PC/MAC IPSec clients will work just fine. > >> > >> Paul > >> > >> > >> > >> >Send postings to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Access the list archives at: > >> >http://www.gnatbox.com/gb-users/ > >> >---------------------------------- > >> >Will Win2k work as a client for 3.0.2? > >> > > >> >http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q240/2/62.ASP > >> > > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Paul Emerson Tel: +1.407.380.0220 > x106 > >> Global Technology Associates, Inc. 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