In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Naulls wrote:

> Rather, this is aimed at the obvious GCCSDK using developers and
> potentially those who might.   My goal here is to get more people
> involved and make it easier for those who already are.

Sounds great :)


> So the question is, what would you guys like to see me (or perhaps
> others) work on to make make your lives easier.

The thing which springs to my mind is GDB, with major caveats though:
I've never actually used anything like it, so am only guessing that I'd
find it useful! ;) Also, I guess it might be a /massive/ project, so a
non-starter.


> Bear in mind that GCC itself and shared library support are well in
> hand by John and Lee, and I'm not so concered about that.
> 
> Some of the obvious topics are the Cygwin support we've been making
> progress on, and of course the autobuilder.

Actually I think we're doing quite well on Cygwin autobuilder stuff.
Most stuff already builds easily for me. If we get to the point where I
can build firefox with just an svn checkout, gcc build and autobuilder
call, I'd be very happy.


> Don't forget any documentation or mundane things like tutorials,

Well, certainly a year or two ago when I was migrating from Basic to C
(with GCC and Sourcery) I felt like there wasn't sufficient hand-holding
tutorials and/or clear documentation.

Unfortunately (from the point of view of improving things) I'm now at
the point where all the stuff I struggled with then seems obvious to me.


> Also, it'd be good to have an idea of the perceived barriers in the
> way of more use of GCCSDK.

I think the biggest barrier is the complexities of how to put together a
complete project in C using GCC. Sourcery goes some way to addressing
this but, IMO, is actually too sophisticated. (It's extremely
customisable - but you can only customise it if you already know about
the intricacies of build targets, linking, etc etc. The current version
won't work with GCC4 out of the box.)

Adam

-- 
Adam Richardson          Carpe Diem
http://www.snowstone.org.uk/riscos/

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