Ronnie Buck wrote:

> Have you tried wrapping them in a paper towel? The packs heat by oxidation
> and the paper towel or news paper (I prefer the paper towels) helps restrict
> the oxygen getting to the ore mix which increases their longevity. I use 35
> hour packs and so far I haven't had a cold arrival yet (knocks on wood) but

Well me neither, but had one arrive cold the other day from a manufacturer that
is usually dependable, RLD Enterprises. I have not found better heat packs and I
have tried all the popular ones. I think this pack in particular failed for no
reason related to how I had it set up. I many times will wait for a heat pack to
get warm before putting it in the box, I think I will make this part of my
packing routine for now. BTW, I have been using their 60hrs, which are warm
after 2+days. If they are going from cold to warm/hot areas, I use the 40s
because they will likely be cold or barely warm in the am the next day.

I like your idea about the wrapping of the paper towel around the heat pack, but
we need more specifics on how the heat pack is positioned in the shipping box.
Once folks understand it works via oxygen supply it is easier to set it up
properly in the box, burning oxygen as fast (higher temps) or as slow (lower
temps) as needed. You can tape a heat pack by the edges to the top of the box,
like most people do, and 1/2 of the pack is exposed to oxygen. You can tape it
tightly or a bit loose, allowing more oxygen to the back side. This way I think
is good for most types of cold weather shipping. You may also put it in a deli
cup with holes, or have it "loose" with one end taped somewhere so it doesn't
move too much in the box. I think we can all agree it should NEVER be directly
touching a gecko's container.



>
> I only ship overnight and sometimes that means UPS.

UPS? They did a terrible job for me when I tried them. They will drop a box from
the height of 7ft and their guidelines say the box should be packed for this.
There's no way I would recommend UPS.

> Just curious, how many
> people ship with USPS and has anyone ever had any problems with them? I've
> been shipping with them for 3 years now and couldn't be more pleased.

I guess you had a typo above? You don't really use UPS do you? I have been using
USPS for most of my shipments since January 1 and they are doing a great job.
Only one late arrival (this week!) and one minor screw-up in about 50 shipments
since then. Zero fatalities.

> Oh,
> thanks for the link to the archives BTW and the welcome! I'm looking forward
> to learning as much as I can will try not to be a pest LOL
>
> Ronnie
>

Everyone has some experience to offer with their gex and that is valuable. Nice
to see you posting!

Regards,

Julie Bergman
http://www.geckoranch.com
GGA lifetime member

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