Julie...
I won't argue with something that has worked over the years, but I do
think if a better answer is available it is worth investigating. FWIW,
Dr. Donoghue has recently joined the ADCHAM list and is participating in
several threads on herp nutrition (albeit chameleon). She and the
resident vets have really been keeping the rest of us on our toes!
Julie Bergman wrote:
>
> Doug,
>
> I have used Science Diet A/D ground up with crix or mealworms in the blender and
> used the puree/tube feed technique to bring back sick leos. This was recommended
> to me by UC Davis vets and it works just fine. We can always order up and try
> something that is better in theory, but what the vet recommended for Jeanna is
> tried and proven over many years in many collections, not just mine. I am curious
> as to what Dr. Donoghue what recommend here. Clearly we should not "settle" if
> something better is out there. Right now though, the gecko needs some nutrition
> and the above is quick and easy.
>
> Julie Bergman
> http://www.geckoranch.com
> GGA lifetime member
>
> Doug Johnston wrote:
>
> > Jeanna...
> >
> > I really wouldn't use dog food (or cat food). While it's composition is
> > known, it is developed for mammal carnivores. I would recommend you
> > investigate Nutrition Support Services (http://www.HerpNutrition.com/).
> > The owner (Dr. Susan Donoghue) is a vet/nutritionist who developed her
> > products with feeding trials over the last 10 years. She has insect
> > dusts, but she also has insect diets. She lists many different herps,
> > but unfortunately geckos are not listed. Send her a note and ask which
> > diet and/or dusts to use. She is very responsive. BTW... I know she used
> > Phelsuma in her trials. I'm not sure about leos.
> >
> > Jeanna Morgan-Kienzle wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > > I took my sick leo to the vet yesterday to be de-wormed. They gave ger
> > > Panacur and Flagyl.
> > > He is also having me force feed her from a syringe with a long rubber tube
> > > on the end so she doesn't hurt her jaw. He gave me some kind of
> > > canine/feline food called AD to dilute 50/50 with water. I am to also give
> > > her crix if she wants to eat them. she has lost about 20 g.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever fed dog food to their herps? He also suggested to gutload
> > > the crix with crushed up dog kibble??? His thoughts being that we know the
> > > nutritional value of dog food but no one knows what is in that cricket food
> > > stuff. Of course if Im feediing the crix fruit and veggies, I guess I know
> > > the nutritional value of those.
> > >
> > > This morning she had very waterey stool, but she did have a belly full of
> > > liquid food and meds. She took her "breakfast" fine today and I will try
> > > some crix tonight after work.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -Jeanna
> > >
> > >
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