Mbak, saya hanya prihatin kalo dampak dari pikiran extrem anda tidak membantu utk. perjuangan rakyat Indonesia utk. memulihkan demokrasi dan menegakkan keadilan sosial dan menghukum rezim Suharto, musuh rakyat Indonesia sesungguhnya yg. belum melek betul karena ber-tahun2 kena brain washing, korban hoax dan kebohongan. Mbak bukan orang sembarangan, dari segi asal usul mbak, walau zaman sekarang pendapat2 mbak yg. etrem, nggak dapat pasaran di Indonesia, menurut saya juga dikalangan teman2 di Belanda dan di Eropa, atau hanya segelintir orang saja yg. sepaham dengan mbak, mungkin di Indonesia juga demikian.
> Op 12-02-2022 16:27 schreef 'Tatiana Lukman' via GELORA45 > <[email protected]>: > > > > Jawaban buat saudari Siti Sukrisno. > > Terima kasih banyak atas reaksinya. Kita tidak saling kenal. Apakah anda tahu > tentang kehidupan saya? Apakah anda tahu mengapa saya meninggalkan Kuba dan > sekarang tinggal di Belanda? Apakah saya punya kewajiban untuk mengobral > masalah personal hanya untuk memuaskan/menjawab tuduhan ngawur yang sudah > lama juga dilemparkan oleh orang yang sekarang mendukung reaksi anda? Yang > jelas saya datang ke Belanda bukan untuk hidup enak dari hasil menghisap > kaum pekerja Belanda. Saya bekerja dan tunjangan yang saya dapat sekarang > adalah hak saya sebagai pekerja. Uang tunjangan yang juga diterima semua > orang Belanda BUKANLAH HASIL DARI SISTEM DEMOKRASI NEGARA-NEGARA BARAT. > > > > Apakah anda tidak tahu akumulasi kapital yang digunakan untuk membangun > industry dan kapitalisme Belanda berasal dari penghisapan dan penindasan > kolonial Belanda di Indonesia selama lebih dari tiga abad? Anda tidak tahu > Belanda membunuhi penduduk pulau Banda dan pulau-pulau lain, penghasil pokok > rempah-rempah yang ketika itu sedang laris di Eropa untuk mempertahankan > monopoli dalam perdagangan rempah-rempah? Anda tidak tahu > Cultuurstelsel/sistim tanaman paksa yang telah menyebabkan kaum tani > kelaparan dan mati di Pulau Jawa untuk mengisi kas negara Belanda yang kosong > karena perang Diponegoro dan perang Aceh? Anda tidak tahu minyak di perut > bumi Indonesia disedot dan diboyong ke Belanda? Anda tidak tahu penderitaan > buruh perkebunan gula, tembakau etc. yang hasil kerjanya diboyong ke Belanda? > Anda tidak tahu orang-orang Jawa dibawa ke Suriname untuk dipekerjakan > sebagai Budak? > > > > Bagus sekali anda menyinggung Karl Marx. Anda pasti bias Bahasa Inggris, > bukan? Nah, coba simak dan hayati kata-kata Karl Marx di bawah ini. > > Karl Marx had the following to say about the accumulation of capital by the > VOC: > > “The history of the colonial administration of Holland – and Holland was the > head capitalistic nation of the 17th century – ‘is one of the most > extraordinary relations of treachery, bribery, massacre, and meanness.’ > Nothing is more characteristic than their system of stealing men, to get > slaves for Java. The men stealers were trained for this purpose. The thief, > the interpreter, and the seller, were the chief agents in this trade, native > princes the chief sellers. The young people stolen, were thrown into the > secret dungeons of Celebes, until they were ready for sending to the > slave-ships. An official report says: ‘This one town of Macassar, e.g., is > full of secret prisons, one more horrible than the other, crammed with > unfortunates, victims of greed and tyranny fettered in chains, forcibly torn > from their families.’ To secure Malacca, the Dutch corrupted the Portuguese > governor. He let them into the town in 1641. They hurried at once to his > house and assassinated him, to ‘abstain’ from the payment of £21,875, the > price of his treason. Wherever they set foot, devastation and depopulation > followed. Banjuwangi, a province of Java, in 1750 numbered over 80,000 > inhabitants, in 1811 only 18,000. Sweet commerce!” (Capital, chapter 31). > > > > Kutipan Karl Marx itu saya tampilkan dalam pidato di Archive and Activism / > Panel People Powered Movement vs Shell > > Silahkan kalau mau nonton videonya, saya bukan penipu. > > https://youtu.be/Fy5ZDQaRI8Y > > > > Di Belanda, saya tidak tahu di mana anda tinggal, banyak orang Belanda yang > benci pada kapitalisme, tapi mereka harus hidup dan bekerja dalam sistim itu. > Saya bilang begitu karena saya kenal orang dan organisasi yang terlibat > dalam gerakan anti-kapitalis dan anti-imperialis dan berjuang untuk > Sosialisme!!Membenci satu sistim ekonomi tertentu, tidak berarti dan tidak > mungkin semua orang yang membencinya lantas harus MENINGGALKAN NEGERI ITU!! > Hanya orang yang picik dan ignorant yang berpikiran seperti anda dan > pendukung anda.. > > > > Apakah anda tahu kedua kakek saya berjuang untuk mengusir Belanda dalam > pemberontakan nasional pertama di Indonesia pada tahun 1926? Karena itu, > mereka dan keluarganya dikirim ke kamp konsentrasi Belanda di Boven Digul, di > Papua? Tahu nggak berapa tahun mereka disekap di situ kemudian dikirim ke > Australia? Mereka baru pulang tahun 1947, setelah proklamasi kemerdekaan > 1945!! Tahu nggak berapa tahun orang Belanda ditahan Jepang? Hanya tiga > tahun! Dan mereka menuntut Jepang untuk minta maaf dan kompensasi.. > Seandainya saya minta kompensasi kepada Belanda karena mereka mengurung lebih > dari 20 orang anggota keluarga saya selama 20 tahun, sampai matipun saya > tidak perlu bekerja!!! > > > > Kuba, negeri miskin yang sejak 1961 diblokade oleh AS, juga memberi > Pendidikan dan layanan gratis kepada penduduknya. Lain dengan Belanda, Swedia > dan Negera Eropa barat lainnya yang membangun sistim kapitalis industry > dengan memiliki koloni di Asia dan Afrika, Kuba sama sekali tidak menjajah > negeri dan rakyat lain! Seharusnya anda pelajari sejarah blockade AS terhadap > Kuba, supaya paling sedikit bias tahu (saya tidak mengharapkan anda > menerimanya) bukan hanya negeri-negeri Eropa barat yang memberi Pendidikan > gratis!! > > > > Saya mengerti sekali anda menganggap ide-ide yang memperjuangkan masyarakat > adil dan makmur sebagai ide yang kedawularasa. Itu disebabkan anda dan saya > tidak sama keberpihakannya, dan juga yang anda baca tidak sama dengan apa > yang saya baca. Buktinya , anda sudah dengan serampangan dan ngawur > menghakimi Karl Marx, seolah-olah dia goblok dan tidak tahu apa yang terjadi > di Indonesia pada abad XIX.. > > > > Mao bilang kalua anda tidak tahu seluk beluk satu hal ihwal, anda tidak punya > hak bicara tentang hal itu… apakah tidak betul dan logis kata-kata Mao ini? > Apakah sudah kedaluwarsa ajaran itu? Kan sama dengan orang yang suka bilang, > “jangan sok tahu!” > > > > Anda tahu bagaimana kaum tani sekarang berjuang mempertahankan tanahnya dan > menentang pertambangan di desa Wadas, Purwokerto? Jangan hanya mendongak > keatas, sekali-sekali lihat juga ke bawah, ke pelosok tanah air dan lihat > bagaimana kehidupan rakyat yang terpuruk!!! > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for Windows > > > > From: 'B.H. Jo' via GELORA45 mailto:[email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2022 11:27 AM > To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] ; Tatiana Lukman > mailto:[email protected] ; Tatiana Lukman' via GELORA45 > mailto:[email protected] ; Jaya Suprana > mailto:[email protected] ; Chan CT mailto:[email protected] > Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Warisan generasi aktual China kepada generasi yang > akan datang > > > > Pendapat Mbak Siti "jitu sekali" sesuai dgn pendapat saya dari dulu dimana > Tatiana selalu gembar-gembor benci kapitalis tetapi maunya tinggal di negara > kapitalis Belanda daripada di Cuba. Tetapi mana ada orang yg tidak mau utk > hidup yg lebih enak. Ini yg namanya "munafik". Selain itu selalu > gembar-gembor anti Tiongkok (yg telah bisa maju sekali karena sistim > pemerintahannya yg sekarang ini). Sifat/tindakan seperti ini yg namanya > "obsessi (obsession)" atau delusi (delusion) yg kemungkinan sekali karena > sakit hati yg traumatis (traumatic). > > > BH Jo > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 2:52 AM, Siti Sukrisno > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Mbak, kalo benci kapitalis, kok tinggal di Belanda negara kapitalis ja? > > Kenapa nggak tinggal terus saja di Cuba atau milih Korea Utara? Uang > > tunjangan yg. mbak dapat di Belanda itu manis ja, lupa kalo uang tunjangan > > itu hasil dari sistem demokrasi negara2 dibarat, yg. nggak ditulis dibuku > > Karl Marx abad ke-19? Dan gimana dengan di Swedia, yg. juga negeri > > kapitalis tapi sampe sekolahpun digratiskan dan lain2 tunjangan sosial yg. > > lebih baik dari sistem sosialisnya Mao Tje-dong? Mbak, menurut saya pikiran > > mbak tsb. sudah kedaluwarsa, alias nggak sesuai dengan zaman sekarang, dan > > mungkin kalo di Indonesia, dampaknya utk. perjuangan rakyat Indonesia, > > sangat negatief sekali, karena baik extrem kiri maupun kanan nggak akan > > berhasil memperjuangkan masyarakat adil dan makmur di Indonesia. > > > > > > > > Op 08-02-2022 20:18 schreef 'Tatiana Lukman' via GELORA45 > > > <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > OOOOh, betapa mulianya kaum kapitalis china yang menggelontorkan modalnya > > > di Afrika!! Betapa besar kecintaan Nigeria pada Kaisar Xi Jinping yan > > > dating menyebar sosialisme kakek deng Xiaoping melalui produknya termasuk > > > yang palsu!! Ha…ha.. Oh, terima kasih, China yang sudah mengalahkan dan > > > “mematikan”para saingan lokalnya. Penduduk yang berdemo menentang China > > > yang menghilangkan pekerjaan mereka itu SALAH BESAR! Wong anjing > > > budukannya sudah menjunjung tinggi sosialismenya kakek Deng, ah tidak > > > betul itu menyalahkan china.. chinanya Xi Jinping itu selalu benar, > > > mendatangkan perkembangan bagi penduduk Afrika.. ha…ha.. pepesan > > > kosongnya anjing budukan! > > > > > > Sudah tentu Kaisar Xi harus berusaha keras melawan kritik-kritik yang tak > > > menguntungkannya, termasuk para anjing-anjingnya yang juga selalu > > > membela, walaupun dengan pepesan kosong !! > > > > > > Menjiplak seni orang Afrika, membawanya ke tanah airnya dan memproduksi > > > untuk kemudian dijual balik ke Afrika.. Nah, itulah keahlian orang china > > > didikan kakek Deng Xiaoping dalam cari duit untuk memperkaya diri..Kan > > > menjadi kaya adalah MULIA.. Itulah mengabdi rakyatnya kakek Deng > > > Xiaoping!! > > > > > > Sudah tentu anjing budukan STT tak akan eprnah emngakui bahwa China > > > memerlukan Afrika sebagai PASARNYA, DISEBABKAN OLEH EKONOMI CHINA SENDIRI > > > YANG SEDANG MELAMBAT!! Salah satu issue yang menjadi rebutan kaum > > > imperialis dunia adalah PASAR bagi produknya yang sudah kelebihan!! > > > > > > Inilah penerapan Sosialisme dan solidaritasnya kakek Deng di Afrika!!! > > > > > > In Nigeria, Chinese Investment Comes With a Downside > > > > > > A Friendship That Comes With a Toll > > > https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/12/06/business/international/a-friendship-that-comes-with-a-toll.html > > > > > > 9 Photos > > > https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/12/06/business/international/a-friendship-that-comes-with-a-toll.html > > > > > > View Slide Show› > > > https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/12/06/business/international/a-friendship-that-comes-with-a-toll.html > > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2015/12/06/business/international/a-friendship-that-comes-with-a-toll.html > > > > > > > > > Tyler Hicks/The New York Times > > > > > > By Keith Bradsher http://www.nytimes.com/by/keith-bradsher and Adam > > > Nossiter http://www.nytimes.com/by/adam-nossiter > > > > > > · Dec. 5, 2015 > > > > > > · > > > > > > o > > > > > > Emeka Ezelugha was excited to open a computer training center. He could > > > teach his countrymen some skills and earn a living. > > > > > > But soon after the center opened in a rough, two-story concrete building > > > in Lagos, a blaze broke out in the main classroom. The flames incinerated > > > 30 desktop computers, as well as televisions and air-conditioners. > > > > > > The culprit was unmistakable: one of two dozen power strips in the > > > classroom. The faulty equipment was made in China, even though the > > > salesman said it was British. > > > > > > “The guy tried to convince me it was from the U.K. — I was surprised when > > > it happened,” Mr. Ezelugha said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Across this populous African nation, low-cost Chinese goods are > > > everywhere, evidence of Beijing’s growing dominance in global trade. The > > > trade flow has helped keep life affordable for millions of Nigerian > > > families, at a time when the country is struggling with economic > > > stagnation and plunging prices, as well as the deadly costs of the Boko > > > Haram insurgency. > > > > > > But shoddy or counterfeit products are a national problem in Nigeria, > > > Africa’s largest economy, where impoverished consumers have few > > > alternatives. Some shoddy goods are benign, like the Chinese-made shirts, > > > trousers and dresses with uneven stitching and stray threads that fill > > > street markets. But electrical wiring, outlets and power strips from > > > China, ubiquitous in new homes and offices, are connected to dozens of > > > fires a year in Lagos alone. > > > > > > The relationship between China and Nigeria is a complex web of > > > dependency, one replicated in dozens of developing countries around the > > > world, like Chile, Ethiopia and Indonesia. Such ties are integral to > > > China’s global ambitions. President Xi Jinping of China, who was in > > > Africa this week emphasizing economic diplomacy, just committed $60 > > > billion > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/africa/china-pledges-60-billion-to-aid-africas-development.html > > > in development assistance to the Continent. > > > > > > But such efforts also pose new and unpredictable challenges for Beijing. > > > China has lent heavily to commodity-exporting countries, which are now > > > struggling with low commodity prices. At the same time, China’s highly > > > competitive manufacturing sector has devastated many smaller-scale rivals > > > across Africa, Asia and Latin America. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Xi’s pledge in Africa, in part, seemed aimed at quelling criticism > > > over what some see as a lopsided relationship that largely benefits China. > > > > > > To support its swelling trade in Nigeria, China is funneling billions of > > > dollars to build roads, rail lines, airport terminals, power plants and > > > other desperately needed infrastructure. China is the top lender to > > > Nigeria, where political instability and violence have made Western > > > interests skittish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nigeria, in turn, has become the biggest overseas customer of Chinese > > > construction companies. It is an important market for Beijing, at a time > > > when China’s own growth is slowing. > > > > > > But China’s extensive reach is now meeting resistance in Nigeria, part of > > > the broader risks for Beijing’s global strategy. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Abuja, the capital, the new government is conducting anticorruption > > > investigations into large Chinese construction contracts signed by the > > > previous leadership. Nigerian state governments are struggling to pay for > > > many of those projects, exposing China to potentially heavy losses. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Kano, angry protesters in the streets blame widespread joblessness on > > > China, which is manufacturing African fabric designs in shimmering hues > > > more cheaply than Nigeria. Employment in Nigeria’s textile and apparel > > > sector has plummeted to 20,000 people, from 600,000 two decades ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Lagos, authorities are trying to stamp out subpar Chinese electric > > > goods. Imported power strips and wiring have inadequate copper to handle > > > Nigeria’s 240-volt system, said Wanza Kussiy, the chief safety officer of > > > the Nigerian government’s Standards Organization. > > > > > > Zhang Sen, the vice secretary general of China’s government-controlled > > > Electronic Product Association, said that the group was reviewing > > > Nigeria’s fires. “We still need to do some research before we can say the > > > quality of the Chinese products is to blame,” he said. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nigerian authorities are stymied. Corruption is endemic, making it more > > > difficult to enforce safety standards. And Chinese goods are so dominant > > > that consumer have few other choices. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Lagos, Mr. Ezelugha borrowed heavily to reopen his computer training > > > center after the fire. But the power strips are still made in China. He > > > couldn’t find anything else. > > > > > > Idle Factories, Idle Hands > > > > > > Kano’s cloth industry started in the walled ancient city, a labyrinth of > > > mud brick houses and dirt roads. > > > > > > The city’s blue dye has long been made from the leaves of local indigo > > > plants, which are crushed and mixed with cooking ashes and potassium. > > > Swaths of white cotton fabric are dunked in the dye, which fills > > > six-foot-deep pits lined with animal skins. > > > > > > > > > > > > But employment at the centuries-old dye pits has dropped to 250 people, > > > from nearly 1,500 a decade ago. Chinese companies produce virtually > > > identical patterns of fabrics using synthetic dyes, and their sales now > > > dominate in Kano’s open-air market. > > > > > > > > > > > > “They are learning our arts and taking them to their country and doing > > > them similarly to us, and bringing the goods back to Nigeria and selling > > > them to our people,” said Bala Ibrahim, 45, who has labored in the pits > > > since his early teens. Now he spends whole days idle. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such stories are common across Nigeria’s garment industry. The city’s > > > tanneries, which made Moroccan leather from goatskins for centuries, have > > > laid off most of their staffs. Dozens of modern fabric factories on the > > > outskirts of Kano have closed. > > > > > > > > > > > > In theory, Nigeria should have a manufacturing edge, at least in > > > labor-intensive industries like sewing. > > > > > > With high unemployment in Nigeria, factory owners can easily find workers > > > willing to accept the minimum wage, just $80 a month. By comparison, > > > garment factories in coastal China now pay around $550 a month and still > > > can’t find enough workers. > > > > > > Despite the high cost of labor, it remains cheaper and easier to > > > mass-produce garments in China. > > > > > > One obstacle to setting up a large-scale sewing industry like > > > Bangladesh’s is that Nigeria imposes significant tariffs on imported > > > fabric, a legacy of its past as a big producer of hand-woven fabric and > > > as a large grower of cotton. Another challenge is that electricity from > > > Nigeria’s national grid is unreliable. So operations must rely on diesel > > > generators, buying fuel at a cost per kilowatt-hour generated that is six > > > times what garment makers in China pay. > > > > > > > > > > > > The Nigerian government wants to revive manufacturing, particularly given > > > low prices now for its oil exports. Abdulkadir Musa, the recently retired > > > permanent secretary of Nigeria’s ministry of industry, trade and > > > investment, said the government was mulling reductions in tariffs on > > > garment materials that are not produced in Nigeria, possibly including > > > buttons. “We want to start that all over now that oil is no longer at a > > > high price,” Mr. Musa said, adding that overreliance on oil exports “has > > > been more of a problem for us than a solution.” > > > > > > For now, Nigerians just can’t compete. > > > > > > Chimezie Cyril Okwuosa scrimped for years to set up his own small garment > > > factory near Lagos in 2005. He had 25 sewing machines, 30 workers and a > > > noisy diesel generator. The factory failed within five years. > > > > > > “I was spending so much on diesel that at the end of the day, I had no > > > profit — and some days, there was no diesel at all, and I could not > > > operate,” Mr. Okwuosa said. > > > > > > Mr. Okwuosa now runs Greentomato Apparels, a small-scale importer of > > > children’s trousers. He pays $2.50 a pair to a factory in Guangzhou, > > > China, and then only 10 or 12 cents a pair for shipping. He sells the > > > pants for about $3.25 a pair, leaving him a small profit margin. > > > > > > The collapse of manufacturing is more than just a financial issue. > > > > > > It has also fanned worries about the possible spread of Boko Haram, an > > > insurgency condemned for its large-scale abductions and sexual > > > enslavement of women and girls. Boko Haram has drawn young men to its > > > ranks in destitute northeastern Nigeria, the country’s poorest region. > > > > > > Emir Muhammadu Sanusi II, the traditional ruler of Kano in northern > > > Nigeria, has seen the devastation up close. Outside his palace, a low > > > maroon building with battlements, is a large burn mark. Late last year, a > > > group linked by the government to Boko Haram set off three bombs in a > > > large crowd and then used automatic weapons to spray bullets at the > > > survivors. As many as 500 people were killed. > > > > > > > > > > > > “The Chinese basically copy every textile product in Nigeria,” Emir > > > Sanusi said. “I worry about what could happen to Kano when we have a > > > large number of youths and large numbers of industries are down.” > > > > > > A Flood of Chinese Steel > > > > > > At a Lagos steelyard of Dorman-Long Engineering, the only activity on a > > > recent afternoon was the welding of an oil storage tank. With the steep > > > drop in world oil prices, longtime customers like Exxon Mobil and Royal > > > Dutch Shell are no longer commissioning as many helipads and footbridges > > > for their offshore drilling platforms. > > > > > > The locally owned engineering firm had expected Chinese construction > > > companies operating in Nigeria to help offset the slump. But Chinese > > > construction companies, mostly state-owned, have largely imported their > > > steel girders, reinforcing beams and other materials from home. > > > > > > “I just don’t see a lot of local content in what they do,” said Timi > > > Austen-Peters, the company’s chairman. > > > > > > Infrastructure financed and built by China was supposed to be the great > > > hope for Nigeria. > > > > > > Nigeria endured coups and a civil war in the 1960s, then effectively > > > nationalized many foreign-owned companies in the 1970s. Nigeria developed > > > a reputation for breaking or renegotiating contracts, antagonizing many > > > foreign partners. > > > > > > The risks have prompted Western companies to demand very fat profits > > > before putting money into the country — returns on the order of 25 to 40 > > > percent a year. Their Chinese counterparts have been willing to accept 10 > > > percent or less. > > > > > > “Unless the West changes its risk assessment, the Chinese will beat them > > > to the African market,” said Osadebe Osakwe, a former Nigerian banker who > > > is now the managing director of North China Construction Nigeria. The > > > company is a subsidiary of a state-owned enterprise in Beijing. “The > > > Chinese are trying to prove that they can do what the Western companies > > > can do and they can do it better.” > > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese companies have piled into the country. Mostly state-owned Chinese > > > construction companies have started $24.6 billion worth of projects since > > > 2005, the highest of anywhere in the world, according to the American > > > Enterprise Institute, a Washington research group. > > > https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/24/business/international/the-world-according-to-china-investment-maps.html > > > > > > The World According to China > > > https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/24/business/international/the-world-according-to-china-investment-maps.html > > > > > > China’s enormous overseas spending has helped it displace the United > > > States and Europe as the leading financial power in large parts of the > > > developing world. > > > https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/07/24/business/international/the-world-according-to-china-investment-maps.html > > > > > > > > > > > > “Africa has a real demand for infrastructure and industrial developments > > > — in those areas, China has strong ability and surplus capacity to invest > > > and build,” China’s prime minister, Li Keqiang, said during a visit to > > > Nigeria last year. > > > > > > > > > > > > But as demand at home falters, Chinese companies have been shipping huge > > > quantities of steel girders, piping and other industrial materials at > > > extremely low prices to emerging markets like Nigeria. So there is little > > > benefit for local players like Dorman-Long Engineering that used to > > > fabricate much of this equipment. > > > > > > Executives at Chinese construction companies say they do buy some local > > > materials. But they add that China’s exports are often more readily > > > available and better made, so they can be quickly and reliably included > > > in complex projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > The new Nigerian government is starting to question whether all the > > > construction projects are in the country’s best interest. Many projects, > > > like new international or refurbished airport terminals in Lagos, Abuja, > > > Kano and Port Harcourt, help the country’s elite but may do less for the > > > poor. > > > > > > > > > > > > The new government is now searching for signs of fraud, corruption or > > > other misconduct in existing contracts. President Muhammadu Buhari of > > > Nigeria announced on Aug. 10 that his government had already found that > > > hundreds of millions of dollars were mysteriously diverted from one > > > Chinese-backed rail project to other government projects, although it was > > > not immediately clear if corruption was involved. > > > > > > Bullet Train Boondoggle > > > > > > The pride of the previous Nigerian administration, which left office in > > > May, was supposed to be a new passenger train line that links Abuja to > > > Kaduna. With trains traveling at nearly 120 miles per hour, the $874 > > > million line is supposed to cut the three-hour highway trip in half. > > > > > > But the line may not draw many passengers. > > > > > > A graceful new train station is a 40-minute drive from downtown, > > > surrounded by cornfields and cow pastures. The extension of the line into > > > downtown Abuja has been severely delayed, and money is running short for > > > its completion. And even though Nigeria desperately needs more freight > > > trains, the rail line with its fragile-looking bridges is too lightly > > > built to support heavily laden cargo cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > The fate of the line — like dozens of Chinese projects around Nigeria — > > > is a potential problem for Beijing. > > > > > > Infrastructure projects in Nigeria have been fueled by the same manic > > > lending that has also created mountains of debt for China’s economy at > > > home. State-controlled Chinese banks have lent money at rock-bottom > > > interest rates in deeply indebted Nigeria. > > > > > > They have done so based on the assumption that the Chinese government > > > will repay them if Nigeria cannot. > > > > > > A little-known Chinese government agency, Sinosure, has guaranteed the > > > loans. Sinosure insured $427 billion worth of Chinese exports and > > > overseas construction projects around the world in 2013, the most recent > > > year available. The Export-Import Bank of the United States, by > > > comparison, issued just $5 billion worth of credit in each of the last > > > two years. > > > > > > Nigeria is a particularly shaky bet for China. The corruption > > > investigations could prompt the government to cancel contracts outright. > > > Government revenue has dropped by more than half since the fall in world > > > oil prices, so the country may not have the money to make good on the > > > Chinese deals. > > > > > > > > > > > > The riskiest projects of all may be those like the high-speed rail line > > > that are widely viewed as the previous administration’s vanity projects. > > > > > > A Chinese construction manager at the new station on Abuja’s outskirts, > > > who identified himself only as Mr. Zhang, said the project would be > > > finished by next March. It was only behind schedule, he added, because of > > > shipping delays. > > > > > > “We’re waiting for materials from China,” Mr. Zhang said, “like toilets.” > > > > > > Owen Guo contributed research from Beijing. > > > > > > A version of this article appears in print on Dec. 6, 2015, Section BU, > > > Page 1 of the New York edition with the headline: A Friend With > > > Detriments. Order Reprints http://www.nytreprints.com/ | Today’s Paper > > > https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper | Subscribe > > > https://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp8HYKU.html?campaignId=48JQY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Mail https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986 for Windows > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Jaya Suprana mailto:[email protected] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 1:35 AM > > > To: Chan CT mailto:[email protected] > > > Cc: GELORA45_In mailto:[email protected] ; Tatiana Lukman > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Warisan generasi aktual China kepada generasi > > > yang akan datang > > > > > > > > > > > > Saya mengagumi debat antara kakek Chan dan nenek Tiana yang dengan penuh > > > semangat kearifan membela keyakinan masing-masing dengan penuh humor > > > tanpa horror kebencian. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 at 07.29 Chan CT <[email protected] > > > mailto:[email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Apa yang hendak dikatakan nenek Tatiana ini, ...??? Dari apa yang > > > > dinyatakan Prof. Sun ini sudah bisa membuat kesimpulan RRT PASTI > > > > BANKRUT? Begitulah mimpi INDAH nenek dalam tempurung selama puluhan > > > > tahun ini, menjadi makin berang setelah harapannya berulang kali GAGAL, > > > > di Tahun Macan ini, begitu mendengar pernyataan Prof. Sun yang > > > > mengungkap sisi negatif yang terjadi di Tiongkok, segera saja disamber > > > > mimpi selama ini segera akan terwujudkan menjadi kenyataan! RRT > > > > bankrut! Hehehee, ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Iyaaa, ... kalau saja pemerintah Tiongkok TIDAK BERHASIL menangani dan > > > > mengatasi masalah-masalah konkrit yang diterjadi sebagaimana diajukan > > > > Prof. Sun itu, dan kalau saja PKT betul-betul meninggalkan 4 Prinsip > > > > Jalan Sosialisme, sepenuhnya MENGABDI RAKYAT, menjadikan KEPENTINGAN > > > > RAKYAT yang diutamakan, ... Tentu mimpi nenek satu ini akan menjadi > > > > kenyataan. RRT akan roboh sebagaimana PKUS roboh dengan sendirinya > > > > ditahun 1991, ... Itulah perjuangan BENAR dan SALAH yang selalu dan > > > > setiap saat terjadi didalam PKT! Disetiap langkah kemajuan selalu > > > > terjadi perjuangan antara pendapat yang BENAR dan SALAH, dan adalah > > > > juga kenyataan dalam setiap proses kemajuan akan terjadi segi positif > > > > dan segi negatif! Yang menjadi masalah, bagaimana PKT bisa memanangkan > > > > pendapat/pemikiran yang BENAR dan mendorong maju segi POSITIF untuk > > > > TERUUUS MAJUUU lebih baik dan lebih cepat! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perubahan kondisi pandemi yang melanda dunia, termasuk di Tiongkok > > > > sendiri, berdampak cukup serius! Sementara pengusaha UMKM, bahkan > > > > konglomerat macam Grup Evergrande menghadapi krisis keuangan terancam > > > > bankrut dan mengakibatkan belasan juta penganggur adalah kenyataan yang > > > > harus dihadapi dan diatasi pemerintah, ... Dari pengalaman menghadapi > > > > krisis ekonomi yang juga menerjang Tiongkok diakhir tahun 1997, 2008, > > > > ... cara RRT menangani dengan memilah pantas dan perlu tidak perusahaan > > > > bankrut itu diselamatkan demi kepentingan rakyat banyak! Tentu saja > > > > diselamatkan menjadi BUMN! Yang terjadi puluhan tahun itu, BUMN jadi > > > > makin besar dan kuat, ... Mendorong maju ekonomi nasional! Banyak pakar > > > > ekonomi menyatakan, RRT akhirnya akan menelan semua kapitalis > > > > perseorangan menjadi BUMN, ... Benar begitu? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tidak juga, kenyataan tetap saja kapitalis perseorangan bahkan modal > > > > asing masuk menanamkan modalnya di Tiongkok, ... Tiongkok tetap saja > > > > merupakan pasar terbesar didunia dan usaha AS, khususnya Trump mencabut > > > > pengusaha AS dari RRT juga nampak tidak berhasil! RRT TETAP menjadi > > > > pabrik dunia, belum ada negara lain yang berhasil menggantikan posisi > > > > rantai produksi yang cukup menyeluruh, ... Menjadi DASAR landasan RRT > > > > yang kuat untuk teruuus MAAAJUUUUUU!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: 'Tatiana Lukman' via GELORA45 > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:25 AM > > > > > > > > To: 'Jonathan Goeij' via GELORA45 > > > > > > > > Subject: [GELORA45] Warisan generasi aktual China kepada generasi yang > > > > akan datang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/JM6JCXcmVNo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [China-WTO Part 2] Foretelling China’s legacy in the future, the price > > > > of economic growth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjing jaga remo STT sering menantang kita bahwa sejarah akan > > > > membuktikan “kejayaan” China yang dibangun oleh reform kapitalis kakek > > > > Deng Xiaoping. Saya masih hidup dan sudah menyaksikan dampak dari > > > > integrasi ekonomi Tiongkok ke dalam sistim kapitalis dunia yang > > > > membuatnya tidak terlindungi dari krisis finans dan ekonomi dunia. Lain > > > > dengan sosialisme zaman Mao yang dibangun dengan berdikari, tanpa satu > > > > senpun dari IMF, Bank Dunia atau korporasi multinasional, yang mana > > > > melindunginya dari segala macam goncangan dan krisis dunia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anjing bulldog remo serta konco2nya, penganut ideologi neoliberal > > > > melihat perkembangan atau pertumbuhan ekonomi hanya dari per-tumbuhan > > > > GDP, eksport, surplus dalam perdagangan dan besarnya reserve devisa. > > > > Reform kapitalis kakek Deng Xiaoping telah mengu-bah Tiongkok menjadi > > > > pabrik dunia. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mereka bangga dengan produk made in china, walaupun tetap menyandang > > > > nama Dell, Apple, etc. Penderitaan kaum buruh migran, penyusutan tanah > > > > pertanian karena dialihfungsikan menjadi infrastruktur raksasa, > > > > pusat-pusat perdagangan dan perumahan mewah, polusi udara, tanah dan > > > > air sebagai akibat dari pembangunan infrastruktur dan pabrik-pabrik > > > > padat karya yang sama sekali tidak mengindahkan masalah lingkungan > > > > telah menimbulkan berbagai penyakit bagi pekerja dan penduduk. Tapi > > > > sudah tentu bagi anjing budukan remo, semua itu diremehkan, sama dengan > > > > semua kaum kapitalis monopoli /imperialis dalam memandang climat change. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pembungkaman pendapat, penindasan terhadap mereka yang berani bicara > > > > sudah menjadi pengetahuan umum dan ini membuat orang takut akan > > > > konsekwensinya kalau mau dengan jujur mengemukakan keadaan yang > > > > sebenarnya atau pendapatnya yang bertentangan dengan versi resmi. > > > > Persis seperti zaman ORBA Suharto. Tapi ada juga orang-orang yang > > > > berani mengambil resiko. Anjing remo STT sangat meremehkan orang-orang > > > > seperti itu, karena jumlahnya masih sedikit, maka dengan menghina dia > > > > bisa bilang “segelintir” orang. Dia lupa PKT didirikan oleh segelintir > > > > orang, hanya 12 orang. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Di antara mereka yang berani mengemukakan pendapatnya adalah prof. Sun > > > > Liping yang mengajar sosiologi di Universitas Peking dan Tsinghua. > > > > Pastilah, anjing remo ini akan melihat prof. Sun sebagai orang yang > > > > liberal dan pro AS. Seperti biasa, anjing remo STT tidak pernah mau > > > > membicarakan “apa yang dikemukakan”oleh seseorang, yang dia persoalkan > > > > hanya “siapa yang mengemukakan pendapat itu”. Dengan memberi cap kepada > > > > “pembawa berita”, selesailah soalnya. Seperti B(urhanudin) H(arahap) Jo > > > > yang dengan sewenang-wenang menuduh orang “agen CIA”, etc. Begitu picik > > > > dan kerdilnya cara berpikir para pendukung rezim kapitalis-imperialis > > > > China. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yang menarik perhatian, peran prof. Sun dalam pemberian PHD kepada sang > > > > kaisar Xi!!! Silahkan nonton video di mana prof. Sun bicara tentang > > > > warisan generasi sekarang kepada generasi 30 sampai 75 tahun yang akan > > > > datang! 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