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The Jewish Top Spy Who Advised Hamas He is a white, South African Jewish
man who fought apartheid and advised Hamas. Ronnie Kasrils tells us his
story.

02 Sep 2017 10:30 GMT Politics
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/categories/politics.html>, South Africa
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/south-africa.html>, Human Rights
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/categories/human_rights.html>, Israel
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/israel.html>, Palestine
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/palestine.html>



Fifty years ago, the state of Israel
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/israel.html> seized the remaining
Palestinian territories of the West Bank
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/subjects/occupied-west-bank.html>, East
Jerusalem, Gaza Strip <http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/city/gaza.html>, as
well as the Syrian Golan Heights
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/subjects/golan-heights.html>, and the
Egyptian Sinai Peninsula
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/subjects/sinai-peninsula.html>, in a
matter of six days.

In a conflict with Egypt
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/egypt.html>,
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/jordan.html>Jordan and Syria,
known as the 1967 War, Israel delivered what came to be known as the
"Naksa", meaning setback or defeat, to the armies of the neighbouring Arab
countries and to the Palestinians who lost all that remained of their
homeland.

The ANC called the Israeli apartheid-South African alliance 'the unholy
alliance'... Israel helped South Africa apartheid create seven nuclear
devices … they showed no compunction, no concern of putting nuclear devices
into the hands of the apartheid monster

Ronnie Kasrils

When the Naksa took place, many countries started questioning their support
for the Jewish state.

A UN resolution calling for the return of captured Palestinian territories
accelerated a process of political isolation that grew stronger as the
Israeli occupation went on.

At the same time, an organised Palestinian resistance was taking shape. The
Israelis turned to a country it had long counted on for friendship: South
Africa <http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/country/south-africa.html>. And so
in the 1970s, a more extensive economic and military relationship developed.

The Palestinians, however, also had friends in South Africa. Just when the
Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/organisations/plo.html>) began its armed
resistance, they found support in the African National Congress (ANC
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/organisations/anc.html>), the black
movement fighting apartheid.

One man found himself squarely in the centre of this historic movement: a
Jewish South African-born communist who fought with the ANC against the
white regime.

Later in life, when he was a cabinet minister in the South African
government, Ronnie Kasrils was scorned by Israel and some of his Jewish
countrymen when he advised Hamas
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/organisations/hamas.html>.

"There are Jews in this country, not just me ... who are decrying what
Israel is doing ... and standing up for Palestinian rights, and then, of
course... [we are later] condemned as traitors," he says.

For many years, Ronnie Kasrils, fought side by side with President Zuma
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/people/jacob-zuma.html>. They worked
together to build the ANC intelligence service. When asked for his
impression of Zuma, Kasrils responded:

"He is a completely different person. I worked with him when he was in
exile from Mozambique and Zambia ... I wonder to what degree, at that
stage, he had thoughts and ambitions of power and wealth. Because the
behaviour from the moment he came back into South Africa, right from the
very start 1990 or so, was the acquisition of favours from benefactors, and
it just grew and grew out of proportion," he says.

Today, as Israel, the wider Middle East
<http://www.aljazeera.com/topics/regions/middleeast.html> and his own
homeland confront deep existential questions, South Africa's former
intelligence minister, and one of the country's original freedom fighters,
Ronnie Kasrils talks to Al Jazeera.

Source: Al Jazeera News

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