Saya kurang tahu sistem Belanda, coba anda uraikan. Kalau sistem Indonesia boro2 master, dokter cuman S1 atau Bachelor
Kalau US, dokter kayak Indonesia itu tidak dikenal, yg ada setingkat S1 itu BS in Pre-Med yg masih harus melanjutkan sekolah lagi, yg kalau kemudian cuman ngambil Master jadinya ya Physician Assistan, kalau yg benar2 physician ya tingkat doctoral Doctor of Medicine. ---In [email protected], <djiekh@...> wrote : Probleemnya mana yang benar : MD setingkat master atau setingkat Doktor. In Canada, the M.D. is the basic medical degree required to practice medicine. Kalau Basic degree ya dokter biasa, di Belanda Drs. Di Belanda dianggap masih tingkat master, jadi Drs, sama sekali bukan Doktor. On 21 January 2018 at 22:43, Jonathan Goeij <jonathangoeij@... mailto:jonathangoeij@...> wrote: Memang anda mau menginterpretasikan apa? bukankah sudah dibahas berulang kali? MD: BS/BA (4 th) -> pendidikan MD (4 th) -> residency (3-7 th, depend on specialty); total 11-15 th PhD: BS/BA (4 th) -> pendidikan PhD (4 th); total 8 th Post Doctoral: BS/BA (4 th) -> pendidikan PhD (4 th) -> Post Doctoral (3-5 th); total 11-13 th Dari lamanya program pendidikan kelihatannya MD setara dgn Post Doctoral. On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 12:51:04 PM PST, kh djie <djiekh@... mailto:djiekh@...> wrote: Silahkan interpretatie sendiri : United States and Canada[edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doctor_of_Medicine&action=edit§ion=5] In the United States, MDs are awarded by medical schools as "Professional Doctorate"[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-9[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-10 (as opposed to the Doctor of Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy degree which requires additional studies) and are accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaison_Committee_on_Medical_Education (LCME), an independent body sponsored by the Association of American Medical Colleges https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Medical_Colleges and the American Medical Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association (AMA).[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-11[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-NRMP-12 Admission to medical schools in the United States and Canada is highly competitive, and in the United States about 17,800 out of approximately 47,000 applicants received at least one acceptance to any medical school in recent application years. Before entering medical school, students are required to complete a four-year undergraduate degree and take the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCAT; however, some combined undergraduate/medical programs exist. Before graduating from a medical school and achieving the Doctor of Medicine degree, students are required to take the United States Medical Licensing Examination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Medical_Licensing_Examination (USMLE) Step 1 and both the clinical knowledge and clinical skills parts of Step 2. The M.D. degree is typically earned in four years. Following the awarding of the MD, physicians who wish to practice in the United States are required to complete at least one internship year (PGY-1) and pass the USMLE Step 3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USMLE_Step_3. In order to receive board eligible or board accredited status in a specialty of medicine such as general surgery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_surgery or internal medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_medicine, they undergo additional specialized training in the form of a residency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residency_(medicine). Those who wish to further specialize in areas such as cardiology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiology or interventiona l radiology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interventional_radiology then complete a fellowship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_(medicine). Depending upon the physician's chosen field, residencies and fellowships involve an additional three to eight years of training after obtaining the M.D. This can be lengthened with additional research years, which can last one, two, or more years. In Canada, the M.D. is the basic medical degree required to practice medicine. McGill University Faculty of Medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGill_University_Faculty_of_Medicine is the only medical school in Canada that continues to award the M.D.,C.M. degrees (abbreviated M.D.C.M.). M.D.C.M. is from the Latin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_language "Medicinae Doctorem et Chirurgiae Magistrum" meaning "doctor of medicine and master of surgery". Upon graduation, students enter into a residency phase of training. Prior to obtaining independent practicing license from a provincial regulatory body, students must complete the Medical Council of Canada Qualifying Examination https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_Council_of_Canada_Qualifying_Examination to obtain the Licentiate of the Medical Council of Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licentiate_of_the_Medical_Council_of_Canada (LMCC) qualifications. On 21 January 2018 at 21:21, jonathangoeij@... mailto:jonathangoeij@... [GELORA45] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote: United States and Canada[edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doctor_of_Medicine&action=edit§ion=5] In the United States, MDs are awarded by medical schools as "Professional Doctorate"[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-9[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-10 (as opposed to the Doctor of Philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy degree which requires additional studies) and are accredited by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liaison_Committee_on_Medical_Education (LCME), an independent body sponsored by the Association of American Medical Colleges https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Medical_Colleges and the American Medical Association https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association (AMA).[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-11[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine#cite_note-NRMP-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Doctor_of_Medicine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <djiekh@...> wrote : Doctor of Medicine (afkorting: M.D., MD of DM, Latijn https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latijn: Medicinae Doctor) is de academische titel https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titulatuur_hoger_onderwijs of graad die gevoerd wordt door artsen https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts in Angelsaksische https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelsaksische_landenl anden. De M.D. is in Canada https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada en de Verenigde Staten https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verenigde_Staten echter niet een doctoraat https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctoraat maar een 'graduate degree' op Master-niveau https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_(graad). Veelal wordt deze graad abusievelijk vergeleken met een doctorate level degree https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctoraat vanwege de naam van deze titel. https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Doctor_of_Medicine https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine Doctor of Medicine ( disingkat: MD. atau DM, Latijn: Medicinae Doctor) adalah titel akademi olh dokter2 di negeri2 Angelsaksis. MD di Kanada dan Amerika Serikat bukan doktoraat, tetapi "derajat lulusan" tingkat Master. Titel MD ini banyak salah diartikan dengan titel derajat Doktor, karena nama Medical Doctor.
