Ngaco! si ko Chan sama Nesare yang ngaco,  Cek ya bisa diuangkan langsung baik 
di Indo maupun di USA . Masa orang bawa cek datang ke bank disuruh datang lagi 
besoknya? konyol banget.
 kecuali duit si pembuka cek tsb, kurang, ya ditolak. 
 

 kalo bilyet giro ya iya, ga bisa diuangkan, hanya bisa uangnya masuk ke 
account bank kita.
 saya sebetulnya ga mau ikut2an tapi karena si ko Chan turun gunung lalu ngaco, 
jadi gatal mau ikutan juga,
 

 ga tau kalo aturan sekarang dirubah di indo tapi rasanya ga masuk akal ga bisa 
diuangkan langsung,
 

 

---In [email protected], <SADAR@...> wrote :

 Agar DISKUSI di GELORA45 bisa berlangsung sehat dan TIDAK mengganggu banyak 
pembaca dengan eyel-eyelan ataupun saling menggeloblok-goblokkan yg tidak ada 
gunanya itu, perkenankanlah saya mengusulkan UTAMAKAN-lah ajukan ARGUMENTASI 
atau berhenti ngeyel dan dengan jantan akui kesalahan!
 Bagi saya yg awam soal perbankan, ... jarang-jarang terima chek apalagi giro, 
tapi yang saya tahu di HK, ... chek hanya bisa masuk ke account bank kita dan 
baru bisa diuangkan keesokan hari kerja, ... kecuali besaran duit di chek itu 
tidak lebih dari simpanan duit kita dibank itu. Jadi, memang yang saya tahu 
chek tidak bisa diganti duit langsung begitu saja, bersyarat dan hanya di bank 
bersangkutan. Sedang di bank berbeda harus masuk ke account kita dulu, ...
 Nah, bagi Jonathan yag menyatakan sekarang chek bisa diuitkan langsung, tanpa 
melalui clearing house dulu, ... sebaiknya bisa buktikan dengan data, ...! 
TIDAK ngeyel terus.
 
 
 Salam-diskusi,
 ChanCT
 
 
 Sunny ambon ilmesengero@... mailto:ilmesengero@... [GELORA45] 於 13/2/2019 1:14 
寫道:
 
   
 Mengatakan orang goblok, tolol adalah menghina!
 
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:09 PM 'nesare' nesare1@... mailto:nesare1@... 
[GELORA45] <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
 
   Heran rajin sekali meme memean begini, sedangkan argumennya gak ada!
 
 bukan GOBLOK dan merasa sbg orang pinter?!
  
 Nesare
  
  
 From: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
<[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> 
 Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:35 PM
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Eka Tjipta
 
 
  
   
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <nesare1@... 
mailto:nesare1@...> wrote :
 GOBLOK GOBLOK dasar GOBLOK!!!!
 Sudah dikasih referensi yg begitu sederhana masih kagak ngerti!!!!
 Kalau bukan GOBLOK apalagi????!!!!
  
 Sekarang bilang:” Giro hanya melalui kliring, sedang cek selain bisa kliring 
juga bisa diuangkan langsung di bank yg mengeluarkan cek.”
  
 Gimana caranya cek dibawa ke bank langsung dapet uang kas?!!!
  
 Pernah ente lakukan?
 Ini skenarionya ane kasih 2 aja:
 Ente bawa cek ente ke bank, lalu langsung dikasih uang kas ya? Teller nya gak 
babibu langsung kasih kas ya? Kenapa ente gak pergi ke ATM saja instead of bawa 
cek utk diuangkan ke bank ente? Kalau ente gak ada uang di bank ente, emangnya 
ente langsung dikasih duit kas? Ente bawa cek orang lain yg bayar utang sama 
ente ke bank ente utk diuangkan. Ini langsung dikasih uang kan menurut ente? 
Kenapa dikasih uang langsung kalau pemilik cek gak ada uang? Banknya goblok ya? 
Wong diskenario 1 saja kalau ente gak ada uang dibank ente, ente gak akan bisa 
ambil uang. Ini menurut ane yg gak pernah tahu cara kerja bank dinegara ente 
loh. Moso segitu gobloknya orang2 bank dinegara ente? Terus gimana logikanya 
ada orang yg check cashing itu ya? Ngapain orang2 bawa cek sendiri ke 
perusahaan check cashing utk menguangkan cek nya? Ini cek sendiri loh! Apalagi 
ceknya milik orang lain!!!!!  
 GOBLOK dipelihara!!!!
 Nesare
  
  
 From: [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
<[email protected] mailto:[email protected]> 
 Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:50 PM
 To: Yahoogroups <[email protected] mailto:[email protected]>
 Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Eka Tjipta
 
 
  
   
 Bung Djie, di Indonesia dibedakan antara Cek dan Giro. Giro hanya melalui 
kliring, sedang cek selain bisa kliring juga bisa diuangkan langsung di bank yg 
mengeluarkan cek.
 
 Pengusaha di Indonesia pada umumnya mengeluarkan giro karena selain lebih aman 
juga tanggalnya bisa dimundurkan.
 
  
 
  
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected], <djiekh@.... 
mailto:djiekh@...> wrote :
 Movement of a check from the bank in which it was deposited to the bank on 
which it was drawn, and the movement of its face amount in the opposite 
direction. This process (called 'clearing cycle') normally results in a credit 
to the account at the bank of deposit, and an equivalent debit to the account 
at the bank on which it was drawn. Also called clearing.
 Read more: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/check-clearing.html 
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/check-clearing.html 
 
  
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanadianChequeSamplePAR.png
 Cheque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque sample for a fictional bank in 
Canada showing the MICR encoding used during clearing to route the cheque to 
the appropriate bank
 
 Cheque clearing (or check clearing in American English) or bank clearance is 
the process of moving cash (or its equivalent) from the bank 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank on which a cheque 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque is drawn to the bank in which it was 
deposited, usually accompanied by the movement of the cheque to the paying 
bank, either in the traditional physical paper form or digitally under a cheque 
truncation system. This process is called the clearing cycle 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_(finance)" title="Clearing (finance) and 
normally results in a credit to the account at the bank of deposit, and an 
equivalent debit to the account at the bank on which it was drawn, with a 
corresponding adjustment of accounts of the banks themselves. If there are not 
enough funds in the account when the cheque arrived at the issuing bank, the 
cheque would be returned as a dishonoured cheque marked as non-sufficient funds 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sufficient_funds.[1] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_clearing#cite_note-dishonour-1
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_clearing 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_clearing
 How Checks Clear: When Money Moves (and Doesn't) What Happens When You Write 
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 BY JUSTIN PRITCHARD
 
  
 Updated January 20, 2019
 
 
 Check clearing is the process of moving money to complete a payment made by 
check. The process can take several days, or it may be almost instant, 
depending on how the recipient handles the payment.
 
 Moving funds between banks: In most cases, the recipient (or payee) submits 
the check to their bank, and the bank collects funds from the check writer’s 
bank.
 
 That process often takes two to three business days, but it can take 
longer—especially for international payments and other unusual circumstances. 
Intermediaries like correspondent banks and the Federal Reserve often help with 
these transactions.
 
 
 Internal payments and check cashing: Funds sometimes move quickly. For 
example, if the check writer and the payee both use the same bank, internal 
transfers are faster. Likewise, if you cash a check at the check writer’s bank, 
the funds come out of that account immediately.
 
 When all goes well, the process is smooth. But depending on your perspective, 
the timing can be a problem:
 
 ·        If you received the check, you’re probably in a hurry for it to clear.
 ·        If you wrote the check, you might be hoping for a few extra days to 
get money into your account.
 
 Logistically, the receiving bank or credit union (where the payee deposits or 
cashes the check) sends the check to the bank that the funds are drawn on, or 
to a clearinghouse. Banks originally sent physical checks to each other, but 
they increasingly use images of checks for improved efficiency. Assuming funds 
are available and there is no problem with the check, the paying bank transfers 
money to the receiving bank.
 
 Checks You Write How long does it take a check to clear after you write it? It 
depends on several factors. In most cases, checks hit your account two to three 
days after the payee receives your payment. Until the check clears, it is 
essentially just an IOU—a promise to pay, which you might not fulfill. But the 
clearing timeline is compressing since the Check 21 Act, which enables banks to 
handle a greater number of checks electronically, took effect in October 2004.
 
 Consider the money spent: When you write a check, act as if the money is no 
longer in your account. In the past, people did this by recording every 
transaction in check registers. Balancing your checking accounts (whether on 
paper or electronically) is still a good practice.
 
 Float time: You might be accustomed to waiting several days (or longer) to see 
money to actually leave your account.. During that time, the check is called 
"outstanding," and you could potentially spend the money on something else. But 
you'd be spending that money twice, committing fraud, and setting yourself up 
for overdraft fees. Using the same funds twice while waiting for a check to 
clear is called "taking advantage of the float," and it can lead to numerous 
problems.
 
 How long do you have? It is technically illegal to write a check that you know 
can’t clear, so only write checks when you have funds available. In practice, 
you may actually have a few days. Processing times may depend on whether you 
mail the check or hand it to a cashier at a major retailer. Checkout registers 
often come equipped with check scanners that instantly 



























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