Ngaco? Yaa nggaklah, ... begitulah cara kerja bank sehubungan penggunaan chek, ci Martha!  Prinsipnya harus lewat clering house dulu baru bisa diuangkan, apalagi jumlah besar! Tentu semua ini dilakukan untuk menjamin chek itu betul ada duitnya dan bank tidak dirugikan!

Tentu kalau nilai chek kecil saja, pihak bank dimana kita masukkan chek, bisa saja ambil duit dari acount kita dulu. Tapi kalau nilainya lebih besar dari duit kita di bank itu, PASTI tidak dikasih! Betul-betul besok hari kerja baru boleh diuangkan. Jadi, sesungguhnya nilai duit chek masuk acount kita dibank baru keesokan hari kerja! Itu juga kalau di clearing house chek itu tidak ditolak karena tidak ada duitnya! Katanya, bank bisa kasih tahu kita chek ditolak, sedang yg keluarkan chek bisa kena denda! Saya yakin di AS juga begitu kerjanya bank.


Salam,

ChanCT



[email protected] [GELORA45] 於 13/2/2019 14:32 寫道:

Ngaco! si ko Chan sama Nesare yang ngaco,

Cek ya bisa diuangkan langsung baik di Indo maupun di USA . Masa orang bawa cek datang ke bank disuruh datang lagi besoknya? konyol banget.
kecuali duit si pembuka cek tsb, kurang, ya ditolak.

kalo bilyet giro ya iya, ga bisa diuangkan, hanya bisa uangnya masuk ke account bank kita. saya sebetulnya ga mau ikut2an tapi karena si ko Chan turun gunung lalu ngaco, jadi gatal mau ikutan juga,

ga tau kalo aturan sekarang dirubah di indo tapi rasanya ga masuk akal ga bisa diuangkan langsung,



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Agar DISKUSI di GELORA45 bisa berlangsung sehat dan TIDAK mengganggu banyak pembaca dengan eyel-eyelan ataupun saling menggeloblok-goblokkan yg tidak ada gunanya itu, perkenankanlah saya mengusulkan UTAMAKAN-lah ajukan ARGUMENTASI atau berhenti ngeyel dan dengan jantan akui kesalahan!

Bagi saya yg awam soal perbankan, ... jarang-jarang terima chek apalagi giro, tapi yang saya tahu di HK, ... chek hanya bisa masuk ke account bank kita dan baru bisa diuangkan keesokan hari kerja, ... kecuali besaran duit di chek itu tidak lebih dari simpanan duit kita dibank itu. Jadi, memang yang saya tahu chek tidak bisa diganti duit langsung begitu saja, bersyarat dan hanya di bank bersangkutan. Sedang di bank berbeda harus masuk ke account kita dulu, ...

Nah, bagi Jonathan yag menyatakan sekarang chek bisa diuitkan langsung, tanpa melalui clearing house dulu, ... sebaiknya bisa buktikan dengan data, ...! TIDAK ngeyel terus.


Salam-diskusi,

ChanCT


Sunny ambon ilmesengero@... <mailto:ilmesengero@...> [GELORA45] 於 13/2/2019 1:14 寫道:


    *Mengatakan orang goblok, tolol adalah menghina!*

    On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:09 PM 'nesare' nesare1@...
    <mailto:nesare1@...> [GELORA45] <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Heran rajin sekali meme memean begini, sedangkan argumennya
        gak ada!


        bukan GOBLOK dan merasa sbg orang pinter?!

        Nesare

        *From:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:35 PM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* RE: [GELORA45] Re: Eka Tjipta




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        <mailto:[email protected]>, <nesare1@...
        <mailto:nesare1@...>> wrote :

        GOBLOK GOBLOK dasar GOBLOK!!!!

        Sudah dikasih referensi yg begitu sederhana masih kagak
        ngerti!!!!

        Kalau bukan GOBLOK apalagi????!!!!

        Sekarang bilang:” Giro hanya melalui kliring, sedang cek
        selain bisa kliring juga bisa diuangkan langsung di bank yg
        mengeluarkan cek.”

        Gimana caranya cek dibawa ke bank langsung dapet uang kas?!!!

        Pernah ente lakukan?

        Ini skenarionya ane kasih 2 aja:

         1. Ente bawa cek ente ke bank, lalu langsung dikasih uang
            kas ya? Teller nya gak babibu langsung kasih kas ya?
            Kenapa ente gak pergi ke ATM saja instead of bawa cek utk
            diuangkan ke bank ente? Kalau ente gak ada uang di bank
            ente, emangnya ente langsung dikasih duit kas?
         2. Ente bawa cek orang lain yg bayar utang sama ente ke bank
            ente utk diuangkan. Ini langsung dikasih uang kan menurut
            ente? Kenapa dikasih uang langsung kalau pemilik cek gak
            ada uang? Banknya goblok ya? Wong diskenario 1 saja kalau
            ente gak ada uang dibank ente, ente gak akan bisa ambil
            uang. Ini menurut ane yg gak pernah tahu cara kerja bank
            dinegara ente loh. Moso segitu gobloknya orang2 bank
            dinegara ente? Terus gimana logikanya ada orang yg check
            cashing itu ya? Ngapain orang2 bawa cek sendiri ke
            perusahaan check cashing utk menguangkan cek nya? Ini cek
            sendiri loh! Apalagi ceknya milik orang lain!!!!!

        GOBLOK dipelihara!!!!

        Nesare

        *From:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Sent:* Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:50 PM
        *To:* Yahoogroups <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Subject:* Re: [GELORA45] Re: Eka Tjipta

        Bung Djie, di Indonesia dibedakan antara Cek dan Giro. Giro
        hanya melalui kliring, sedang cek selain bisa kliring juga
        bisa diuangkan langsung di bank yg mengeluarkan cek.

        Pengusaha di Indonesia pada umumnya mengeluarkan giro karena
        selain lebih aman juga tanggalnya bisa dimundurkan.

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        <mailto:[email protected]>, <djiekh@....
        <mailto:djiekh@...>> wrote :

        Movement of a check from the bank in which it was deposited
        to the bank on which it was drawn, and the movement of its
        face amount in the opposite direction. This process (called
        'clearing cycle') normally results in a credit to the account
        at the bank of deposit, and an equivalent debit to the
        account at the bank on which it was drawn. Also called clearing.

        Read more:
        http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/check-clearing.html

        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CanadianChequeSamplePAR.png>

        Cheque <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque> sample for a
        fictional bank in Canada showing the MICR encoding used
        during clearing to route the cheque to the appropriate bank

        *Cheque clearing* (or *check clearing* in American English
        
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences>)
        or *bank clearance* is the process of moving cash (or its
        equivalent) from the bank
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank> on which a cheque
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque> is drawn to the bank
        in which it was deposited, usually accompanied by the
        movement of the cheque to the paying bank, either in the
        traditional physical paper form or digitally under a cheque
        truncation
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_truncation> system.
        This process is called the clearing cycle
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearing_(finance)> and
        normally results in a credit to the account at the bank of
        deposit, and an equivalent debit to the account at the bank
        on which it was drawn, with a corresponding adjustment of
        accounts of the banks themselves. If there are not enough
        funds in the account when the cheque arrived at the issuing
        bank, the cheque would be returned as a dishonoured cheque
        marked as non-sufficient funds
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-sufficient_funds>.[1]
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_clearing#cite_note-dishonour-1>

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque_clearing


          How Checks Clear: When Money Moves (and Doesn't)


            What Happens When You Write (or Deposit) a Check?

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        Signing a Check

        *•••*

        *BY **JUSTIN PRITCHARD
        <https://www.thebalance.com/justin-pritchard-314987>*

        Updated January 20, 2019

        Check clearing is the process of moving money to complete a
        payment made by check. The process can take several days, or
        it may be almost instant, depending on how the recipient
        handles the payment.

        *Moving funds between banks:* In most cases, the recipient
        (or payee) submits the check to their bank, and the bank
        collects funds from the check writer’s bank.

        That process often takes two to three business days, but it
        can take longer—especially for international payments and
        other unusual circumstances. Intermediaries like
        correspondent banks and the Federal Reserve
        <https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-the-central-bank-315194> often
        help with these transactions.

        *Internal payments and check cashing:* Funds sometimes move
        quickly. For example, if the check writer and the payee both
        use the same bank, internal transfers are faster. Likewise,
        if you cash a check at the check writer’s bank, the funds
        come out of that account immediately.

        When all goes well, the process is smooth. But depending on
        your perspective, the timing can be a problem:

        ·If you received the check, you’re probably in a hurry for it
        to clear.

        ·If you wrote the check, you might be hoping for a few extra
        days to get money into your account.

        Logistically, the receiving bank or credit union (where the
        payee deposits or cashes the check) sends the check to the
        bank that the funds are drawn on, or to a clearinghouse.
        Banks originally sent physical checks to each other, but they
        increasingly use images of checks for improved efficiency.
        Assuming funds are available and there is no problem with the
        check, the paying bank transfers money to the receiving bank.


              Checks You Write

        How long does it take a check to clear after you write it? It
        depends on several factors. In most cases, checks hit your
        account two to three days after the payee receives your
        payment. Until the check clears, it is essentially just an
        IOU—a promise to pay, which you might not fulfill. But the
        clearing timeline is compressing since the Check 21 Act,
        which enables banks to handle a greater number of checks
        electronically, took effect in October 2004.

        *Consider the money spent:* When you write a check, act as if
        the money is no longer in your account. In the past, people
        did this by recording every transaction in check registers
        <https://www.thebalance.com/use-check-registers-315289>.
        Balancing your checking accounts (whether on paper or
        electronically) is still a good practice
        
<https://www.thebalance.com/balance-your-bank-account-templates-forms-and-tips-315464>.

        *Float time:* You might be accustomed to waiting several days
        (or longer) to see money to actually leave your account..
        During that time, the check is called "outstanding,"
        <https://www.thebalance.com/outstanding-checks-315275> and
        you could potentially spend the money on something else. But
        you'd be spending that money twice, committing fraud, and
        setting yourself up for overdraft fees. Using the same funds
        twice while waiting for a check to clear is called "taking
        advantage of the float,
        <https://www.thebalance.com/floating-checks-315303>" and it
        can lead to numerous problems
        
<https://www.thebalance.com/you-bounced-a-check-what-happens-now-315337>.

        *How long do you have?* It is technically illegal to write a
        check that you know can’t clear, so only write checks when
        you have funds available
        <https://www.thebalance.com/funds-available-315426>. In
        practice, you may actually have a few days. Processing times
        may depend on whether you mail the check or hand it to a
        cashier at a major retailer. Checkout registers often come
        equipped with check scanners that instantly




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