Hi Joel,

Thanks. I really do not understand the return queue argument. Why on earth
would you need such a large return queue? Surely the agent making the
requests (the GPU in this case) should have allocated space for the
response, no?

Concerning the configuration, what is the assumed clock speed (tCK), and
is it operated as a x16 or x32 part? Is the burst length implicit in your
configuration (or is 8 the default)?

Andreas

On 10/13/14, 10:28 PM, "Joel Hestness via gem5-dev" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Hi Andreas,
>  Sure thing. We try to closely replicate the parameters used in GPGPU-Sim
>v3.2.2, which are specified in the Hynix datasheet here:
>http://www.hynix.com/datasheet/pdf/graphics/H5GQ1H24AFR(Rev1.0).pdf.
>
>  Here are relevant excerpts from the GPGPU-Sim GTX480 config file
>(attached):
>
># The DRAM return queue and the scheduler queue together should provide
>buffer
># to sustain the memory level parallelism to tolerate DRAM latency
># To allow 100% DRAM utility, there should at least be enough buffer to
>sustain
># the minimum DRAM latency (100 core cycles).  I.e.
>#   Total buffer space required = 100 x 924MHz / 700MHz = 132
>-gpgpu_frfcfs_dram_sched_queue_size 16
>-gpgpu_dram_return_queue_size 116
>
>-dram_data_command_freq_ratio 4  # GDDR5 is QDR
>-gpgpu_dram_timing_opt "nbk=16:CCD=2:RRD=6:RCD=12:RAS=28:RP=12:RC=40:
>                        CL=12:WL=4:CDLR=5:WR=12:nbkgrp=4:CCDL=3:RTPL=2"
>
>  If anything needs clarification, I'm happy to help sort it out. Just let
>me know.
>
>  Thanks!
>  Joel
>
>
>
>On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Andreas Hansson via gem5-dev <
>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> I am happy to spend the 5 minutes creating a GDDR5 configuration. Do you
>> have any specific data sheet you would like to capture?
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 10/13/14, 10:09 PM, "Joel Hestness via gem5-dev" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi guys,
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks for the clarification. I believe the RubyMemoryController is
>> >> completely Pareto dominated by the vanilla DRAMCtrl module, but if
>>there
>> >> is any specific feature/setting missing I would be keen to know.
>> >>
>> >> If possible I would like to make sure we use the same controller as a
>> >> default for all timing simulations (even if the other one would be
>> >> maintained as a fallback).
>> >
>> >
>> >I'd like to second the desire to have a simple replacement baseline
>>that
>> >performs at least as well as the RubyMemoryController in most/all
>>cases:
>> >gem5-gpu now has more than 100 users, and as far as I know, we are all
>> >using Ruby and thus the RubyMemoryController. The RubyMemoryController
>>is
>> >pretty simple to configure similarly to DDR3 or GDDR5 and to interpret
>> >results. It performs surprisingly close to some GPU hardware. If this
>> >controller goes away, I (and I'm sure other gem5-gpu users) would
>>prefer
>> >to
>> >have something that is known to perform as well and is also easy to
>> >configure.
>> >
>> >I think we (the gem5-gpu crew) are fine with the RubyMemoryController
>> >going
>> >away eventually. However, given that there isn't currently a GDDR-like
>> >DRAMCtrl configuration in gem5, I'd like to second Nilay and Brad that
>>we
>> >offer users sufficient time to prepare for RubyMemoryController
>>removal.
>> >We
>> >will need to adapt our heterogeneous Ruby coherence protocols, and
>>other
>> >users have their own protocols they'd need to adapt as well.
>> >
>> >
>> >  Joel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 10/13/14, 9:01 PM, "Nilay Vaish via gem5-dev" <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Andreas Hansson via gem5-dev wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi all,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> With Nilay?s recent improvements to Ruby I would like to
>>understand
>> >>if
>> >> >> there is any point in still having the RubyMemoryControl, or if we
>> >> >> should just clean things up a bit and remove it. I would think the
>> >>best
>> >> >> way forward is to clean up the integration of Ruby and classic and
>> >> >> ensure that there is no duplicated functionality beyond what is
>> >> >>strictly
>> >> >> necessary.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nilay, do you think this would make sense? Is there anyone else
>>with
>> >> >>any
>> >> >> opinions in this matter?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I was in favor of dropping RubyMemoryControl.  But I had some
>> >>discussion
>> >> >with Brad Beckmann from AMD.  Since AMD has some infrastructure in
>> >>place
>> >> >already, they would like to retain RubyMemoryControl for the time
>> >>being.
>> >> >
>> >> >I suggest that we retain the memory controller code in ruby for
>>another
>> >> >six months or so, and then we will drop it.  In the mean time,  we
>> >> >will update the interface so that ruby protocols can use classic
>>memory
>> >> >controller.  The code for this is already on the reviewboard.  Over
>> >>this
>> >> >six month period, I hope, most users would have switched to using
>> >>classic
>> >> >controller.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks
>> >> >Nilay
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