So, you just don't allow multiple threads on a cpu or you attempt to flatten
out multiple threads into multiple cpus?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Steve Reinhardt <[email protected]> wrote:

> By default, we do not simulate multithreading.  The SimpleCPU models
> are single-threaded.  The O3 model does have SMT capability, but it's
> not enabled by default, and I'm not sure it's ever been used in FS
> mode so there may well be bugs there.
>
> Steve
>
> 2009/3/20 Polina Dudnik <[email protected]>:
> > Ali,
> >
> > Just to be clear: do or you do not simulate multithreading?
> >
> > There are two options that I can imagine:
> >
> > 1. When I pass -n 2 there are two multithreaded processors, each of which
> > has four thread contexts. In that case, seeing the ipi for "cpu_id" 4 is
> > completely right, because the ipi's come in for the threads, and not
> cpu's.
> > So, the simulator should not be getting confused about the ipi for 4.
> >
> >
> > OR
> >
> > 2. You simulate each thread context as a processor. In that case, when I
> > pass -n 2, there really should be 8 processors. In that case, again ipi
> for
> > 4 is entirely right.
> >
> > Which one is it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Polina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Polina Dudnik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Regarding running one processor with two threads, now that I think about
> >> it, OpenSparc definitely assigns thread numbers and not processor
> numbers in
> >> hardware description file. Niagara does not have 32 processors, but can
> have
> >> 32 threads. So, by assigning thread numbers to be 0 and 4, it ensures
> that
> >> the threads are run on different processors. This is why the number is
> 4. It
> >> is the thread number.
> >>
> >> So I think those really are the cpu numbers as seen by the OS, and they
> >> have to be swizzled.
> >>
> >> Can you please tell me where you got the format for the ipi message. So,
> >> to be more clear in iob.cc:
> >>
> >>
> >>             data = pkt->get<uint64_t>();
> >>             type = (Type)bits(data,17,16);
> >>             cpu_id = bits(data, 12,8);
> >>             vector = bits(data,5,0);
> >>             generateIpi(type,cpu_id, vector);
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you know that cpu_id is at bits 5 through 0? I keep looking
> through
> >> OpenSparc documentation but can't find it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Polina
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Polina Dudnik <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Ali Saidi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yea, that makes sense. You should probably look at the TLBs (that is
> >>>> where a lot of the miscellaneous system registers live). The confusion
> >>>> probably comes from reading one of those and the ids not being
> >>>> swizzeled, or perhaps there is an interrupt message with a CPU id or
> >>>> something as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Right, that's what I was thinking. I will look at the TLB's and the
> >>> interrupt. Perhaps you can help me with a more specific question: when
> I
> >>> post an interrupt, I basically write a bit in the interrupt array. How
> does
> >>> the hypervisor find out about it? Who reads the interrupt array?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess your attempts at convincing the hypervisor that the next cpu
> >>>> was #1 failed?
> >>>
> >>> It is not even that. According to David Wood, it might not be the best
> >>> idea to change cpu numbers because there are a lot of things that
> determine
> >>> the cpu numbers. So, I think the reason that changing the hardware
> >>> description files did not have any effect is because the description
> files
> >>> are fitted to the hypervisor and not the other way around. I am right
> now
> >>> trying to find where the hardware description binary is used if ever.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What about calling the next CPU thread 1 (e.g. make a
> >>>> system with 2 threads and 1 core)?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I remember I was supposed to do that. Sorry for the delay, I will
> >>> certainly try that. Currently I am trying to run 32 processors because
> at
> >>> least they are ordered and shouldn't require swizzling, so we'll see
> what
> >>> happens.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ali
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Polina Dudnik wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Right, I wasn't going to modify the hypervisor. But swizzling the
> >>>> > numbers clearly affects the hypervisor because when hypervisor sends
> >>>> > messages, the processor number is swizzled from 4 to 1. So,
> >>>> > initially the hypervisor thinks that there are cpu #0 and #4, but
> >>>> > then it probably receives some messages or whatever, which have cpu
> >>>> > #1. So, I think the reason that the hypervisor reports that cpu1
> >>>> > failed to start is due to the confusion over the cpu numbers. Does
> >>>> > this make sense?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > So, if m5 shall use cou #0 and #1 internally, it should make sure
> >>>> > that all the external messages are suited for the binaries form
> >>>> > OpenSparc.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Polin
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Ali Saidi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>> > The changes should only affect the portions of the system that the
> >>>> > hypervisor is calling. There shouldn't be any changes required
> within
> >>>> > the hypervisor code.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Ali
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Polina Dudnik wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Hi,
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > So, to make sparc_fs work Ali and later I swizzled the processor
> >>>> > > numbers from 4 to 1 because m5 expects 1 and gets 4. In order to
> >>>> > > make this hack work, we also need to swizzle the numbers back
> before
> >>>> > > calling the hypervisor. So, the processor numbers going into the
> >>>> > > hypervisor should be swizzled back. So, in effect there should be
> a
> >>>> > > map which enables translation both ways. Does anyone know where I
> >>>> > > can start looking for calls to the hypervisor? Thank you.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Polina
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
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