Thanks for your review. Authors, could you respond to David's comments, 
and possibly suggest revisions of your text based on them?

Jari

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) 
> reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see 
> http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments 
> you may receive.
>
> Document: draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-06
> Reviewer: David L. Black
> Review Date: September 18, 2008
> IETF LC End Date: September 18, 2008
>
> Summary:
> This draft is on the right track, but has open issues, described
> in the review.
>
> Comments:
>
> This is a generally well-written draft about mobility handoff
> discovery and transport.  I found a number of things that need
> attention, but none of these appear to be show-stoppers.  The
> primary open issues are in Section 6 on Transport Options.
>
> Section 3 should discuss relationship to deployment scenarios
> in Section 4 of RFC 5164.  I believe this draft covers the
> IP transport portions of the scenarios described in
> Sections 4.1 and 4.2 of RFC 5164.
>
> The following paragraph at the end of Section 5 should also
> be summarized in the Security Considerations section:
>
>    It should be noted that authorization of a MN to use a specific MoS
>    server is neither in scope of this document nor is currently
>    specified in [IEEE80221].  We further assume all devices can access
>    discovered MoS.  In case future deployments will implement
>    authorization policies the mobile nodes should fall back to other
>    learned MoS if authorization is denied.
>
> Section 5.2 says:
>
>    To discover an MoS in the visited network, the MN SHOULD attempt to
>    use the DHCP options for MoS discovery
>
> No other alternative is described.  Why is this a "SHOULD"
> requirement instead of "MUST"?  Is it possible that the MN doesn't
> know whether it's in a home vs. visited network, but wants to find
> an MoS in whatever network it's attached to?
>
> The message size discussion in Section 6.1 seems rather cavalier
> about problems caused by large messages.  The following line of
> reasoning appears to be implicit in Section 6.1 and should be
> made explicit:
> - IP fragmentation SHOULD NOT be used (e.g. consequences of loss
>       of one IP fragment that are already described).  RFC 4963
>       can be cited as a reason to completely disable IP
>       fragmentation if that's helpful.
> - That leaves a choice between TCP and UDP.
> - Messages larger than the PMTU size cannot use UDP (there's
>       already a MUST for a message size limit).
> - Therefore messages large than the PMTU size SHOULD use TCP.
>
> The last paragraph of Section 6.1 criticizes TCP on the grounds
> of latency and possible splitting of a higher level message across
> segments.  SCTP (RFC 4960) addresses both of these problems, and
> therefore needs to be mentioned and cited, but it's probably ok to
> set SCTP aside as not widely deployed in the infrastructure and
> devices to which this document applies (i.e., absence of "running
> code").
>
> Section 6.2 on message frequency says:
>
>    On the other hand, if UDP
>    is used, a rate-limiting effect similar to the one obtained with TCP
>    may be obtained by adequately adjusting the parameters of a token
>    bucket regulator as defined in the MIH specifications [IEEE80221].
>
> This is important - I think that "may" ought to be a "SHOULD".
>
> One of the recommendations for parameter adjustment is:
>
>    o  If MIHF knows the RTT, the rate can be based upon this
>
> Explain how to base the rate on the RTT, and what "knows the RTT"
> means in the presence of congestion-induced delays.
>
> Section 6.3 on retransmission says:
>
>    The default
>    number of retransmissions is set to 2 and retransmissions are
>    controlled by a timer with a default value of 10s.  
>
> Those values appear to be reasonable.  Please say that they SHOULD
> be used, possibly with some qualification involving network-specific
> characteristics.
>
> In Section 6.5, given that IS messages are the main (only?) source
> of large messages and IS messages do not have tight latency
> requirements that favor UDP for CS and ES messages, would it be
> appropriate to say that TCP SHOULD be used for IS messages?
>
> The operational scenario in Section 7 is useful, but the diagram
> size is enormous (over a page).  Would it be reasonable to shrink
> it to fit on one page by combining each MIH User - MIHF interaction
> into the line for the communication that the interaction is part of?
>
> Section 8 mentions "underlying link layer security".  Please provide
> an example (an IEEE 802 example would be very relevant).
>
> idnits 2.09.00 found a couple of possible nits.  These are minor, as
> the dns-discovery draft is intended for standards track:
>
>   == Outdated reference: A later version (-05) exists of
>      draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dhcp-options-03
>
>   -- Possible downref: Normative reference to a draft: ref.
>      'I-D.ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery'  (No intended status found in
> state
>      file of draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery)
>
> Thanks,
> --David
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