Hi Dave,

An implementor of RFC 6120 does not know that the XMPP over Websockets binding 
option exists at all. It did not exist by the time 6120 was written, so of 
course, they can do without it. Now that the binding exist, the option should 
be visible IMO.

The language you use in the I-D actually seems to support this:

> The WebSocket
> XMPP sub-protocol deviates from the standard method of constructing and using
> XML streams as defined in [RFC6120] by adopting the message framing provided 
> by
> WebSocket to delineate the stream open and close headers, stanzas, and other
> top-level stream elements.

Regards,

Dan


From: Dave Cridland [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:30 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Cc: Jari Arkko; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [xmpp] [Gen-art] Gen-ART review for draft-ietf-xmpp-websocket-07

On 8 July 2014 10:06, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Jari,

The authors actually responded - see 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/gen-art/current/msg10306.html.

They pushed back on my #1 - I am still not convinced by their argument (as the 
protocol does change by adding a different mapping) but I would not block the 
document for this purpose.
The proposed changes for the rest are fine.

I genuinely don't understand why adding an additional binding should require an 
Updates.

I understand "Updates" to be an indicator that implementors of (in this case) 
RFC 6120 would need to read this document as well, and I don't believe that to 
be the case.

In particular, implementors of RFC 6120 don't need to care about this document 
unless they *also* want to do XMPP over Websockets, in the same way that 
implementors of Websockets don't need to care about this document unless they 
*also* want to send XMPP over them.

Of course, readers of this document are required to read both RFC 6120 and the 
Websockets spec, but that's what Normative References are for.

Dave.
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