Well, its also possible that whomever is removing me from the list, doesn't agree that I am a problem. Its funny that the people who want me off the list are or were members of the Arbcom I have often criticized as being self serving and problematic.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Kumioko, you can change your gmail preferences to have this list > automatically dump to spam if you're not getting a fast enough response to > your "unsubscribe". > > Risker > > On 12 December 2014 at 14:43, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> While I am waiting for the email confirmation disenrolling me from this >> email list, I think this is only going to work if: >> 1) Someone establishes some metric for determining if the training is >> helping >> 2) If there is some teeth to failure to adhere to the training once its >> been taken. If the WMF has no intention of dealing with admins who continue >> to violate policy, then there is no reason to force them to take the >> training. >> 3) The training is also taken by editors. The majority of the problems >> come from the editors so they should also have some need to take the >> training >> >> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Siko Bouterse <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training >>> >>> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training >>> for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see >>> something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth >>> trying. >>> >>> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on >>> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day >>> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to >>> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity). >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to >>>> implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where >>>> they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how >>>> they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are >>>> the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity >>>> training, I'm not sure how much it would help. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but: >>>>> >>>>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among >>>>> otherwise well-intentioned community members. >>>>> >>>>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play >>>>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators >>>>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem >>>>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can >>>>> sometimes be a tool to exclude people. >>>>> >>>>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries to >>>>> help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the >>>>> point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly >>>>> thankless >>>>> roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks. >>>>> >>>>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some volunteer >>>>> input); could it help? >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Siko Bouterse >>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in >>> the sum of all knowledge. * >>> *Donate <https://donate.wikimedia.org> or click the "edit" button today, >>> and help us make it a reality!* >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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