yes, training could work at wikimania

the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon,
and a track at London
https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme

what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like?


On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> I've added myself to the list of interested people :)
>
> Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the
> Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania?
> On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins:
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training
>>
>> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training
>> for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see
>> something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth
>> trying.
>>
>> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on
>> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day
>> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to
>> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to
>>> implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where
>>> they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how
>>> they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are
>>> the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity
>>> training, I'm not sure how much it would help.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but:
>>>>
>>>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among
>>>> otherwise well-intentioned community members.
>>>>
>>>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play
>>>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators
>>>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem
>>>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can
>>>> sometimes be a tool to exclude people.
>>>>
>>>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries to
>>>> help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the
>>>> point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly thankless
>>>> roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks.
>>>>
>>>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some volunteer
>>>> input); could it help?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
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