Well, in fairness, Nell Arthur was never the U.S. First Lady because she died before her husband became president.
On the other hand, anyone can remove a PROD, and based on what's in the article, it was a good call to do so. A few years ago, I did a bit of review on the likelihood that something PRODded would actually get deleted, and about half the time the PROD tags were removed. As I recall, I looked at about 3-4 days of PRODs so it may not be entirely representative. On the other hand, on a fair number of occasions the PROD tag was removed without the core issue being addressed, about 60%. Sometimes the reason was absurd, but more often it was a justified concern (e.g., absence of reliable sources for key facts or notability) that was just not addressed. Only a very small percentage (under 5% as I recall) had the PROD tag removed and then someone took the article to AfD. Risker/Anne On 6 January 2017 at 09:52, Johanna-Hypatia Cybeleia < [email protected]> wrote: > It was a bit of a shock to see on Nell Arthur > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nell_Arthur>'s page an imminent threat of > deletion. I wouldn't have thought an article on a First Lady could be so > vulnerable. Somebody is claiming that she has no notability just for being > married to the vice president who became president after her death. It took > me about 5 minutes to find RS for the fact that she was indeed notable and > she had everything to do with getting her husband's political career going. > He could not have accomplished what he did without her. > > smh > > So I edited that fact in; in fact, I created a new section headed > "Political career." Now I can remove the deletion threat (just in time > before the ax falls!), but I became alarmed: Which other articles on women > are under this threat? OK, I'm biased: I come from the town named after her > dad. I couldn't just let her slip away. > > Below is the text of the notice, one I haven't seen before, and it has an > alarming red-bordered appearance right up on top of the article, not the > talk page. > > For equality, > J.Hy > > It is *proposed that this article be deleted > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion>* because of > the following concern: > > Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to really be known for > her marriage to Chester A. Arthur > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur>. No indication of > meeting WP:Notability (people) > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)> at all. > > If you can address this concern by improving > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy>, copyediting > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style>, sourcing > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1> > , renaming <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page>, or > merging <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging> the page, *please > edit > this page > <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nell_Arthur&action=edit>* and > do so. *You may remove this message if you improve the article or > otherwise object to deletion for any reason*. Although not required, you > are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your > edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, *do not > replace it > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Nominating>*. > > The article may be deleted if this message remains in place for seven > days, i.e., after 06:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC). > If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider > improving the article so that it is acceptable according to the deletion > policy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy>. > ------------------------------ > *Nominator:* Please consider notifying the author/project: {{subst > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution>:proposed deletion > notify <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Proposed_deletion_notify>|Nell > Arthur|concern=Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to > really be known for her marriage to [[Chester A. Arthur]]. No indication of > meeting [[WP:Notability (people)]] at all.}} ~~~~ > > > -- > __________________________________ > I have been woman > for a long time > beware my smile > > --Audre Lorde > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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