Thanks for that! I have always wondered about that myself. On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, in fairness, Nell Arthur was never the U.S. First Lady because she > died before her husband became president. > > On the other hand, anyone can remove a PROD, and based on what's in the > article, it was a good call to do so. A few years ago, I did a bit of > review on the likelihood that something PRODded would actually get deleted, > and about half the time the PROD tags were removed. As I recall, I looked > at about 3-4 days of PRODs so it may not be entirely representative. On the > other hand, on a fair number of occasions the PROD tag was removed without > the core issue being addressed, about 60%. Sometimes the reason was > absurd, but more often it was a justified concern (e.g., absence of > reliable sources for key facts or notability) that was just not addressed. > Only a very small percentage (under 5% as I recall) had the PROD tag > removed and then someone took the article to AfD. > > Risker/Anne > > On 6 January 2017 at 09:52, Johanna-Hypatia Cybeleia < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> It was a bit of a shock to see on Nell Arthur >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nell_Arthur>'s page an imminent threat of >> deletion. I wouldn't have thought an article on a First Lady could be so >> vulnerable. Somebody is claiming that she has no notability just for being >> married to the vice president who became president after her death. It took >> me about 5 minutes to find RS for the fact that she was indeed notable and >> she had everything to do with getting her husband's political career going. >> He could not have accomplished what he did without her. >> >> smh >> >> So I edited that fact in; in fact, I created a new section headed >> "Political career." Now I can remove the deletion threat (just in time >> before the ax falls!), but I became alarmed: Which other articles on women >> are under this threat? OK, I'm biased: I come from the town named after her >> dad. I couldn't just let her slip away. >> >> Below is the text of the notice, one I haven't seen before, and it has an >> alarming red-bordered appearance right up on top of the article, not the >> talk page. >> >> For equality, >> J.Hy >> >> It is *proposed that this article be deleted >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion>* because of >> the following concern: >> >> Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to really be known >> for her marriage to Chester A. Arthur >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur>. No indication of >> meeting WP:Notability (people) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)> at all. >> >> If you can address this concern by improving >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy>, copyediting >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style>, sourcing >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1> >> , renaming <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page>, or >> merging <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging> the page, *please >> edit >> this page >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nell_Arthur&action=edit>* and >> do so. *You may remove this message if you improve the article or >> otherwise object to deletion for any reason*. Although not required, you >> are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your >> edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, *do not >> replace it >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Nominating>*. >> >> The article may be deleted if this message remains in place for seven >> days, i.e., after 06:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC). >> If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider >> improving the article so that it is acceptable according to the deletion >> policy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy>. >> ------------------------------ >> *Nominator:* Please consider notifying the author/project: {{subst >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution>:proposed deletion >> notify <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Proposed_deletion_notify>|Nell >> Arthur|concern=Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to >> really be known for her marriage to [[Chester A. Arthur]]. No indication of >> meeting [[WP:Notability (people)]] at all.}} ~~~~ >> >> >> -- >> __________________________________ >> I have been woman >> for a long time >> beware my smile >> >> --Audre Lorde >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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