Here is a source for the stained glass window, which was done by Madame Lorin (Marie Françoise Dian) of the Lorin glass studio of Chartres, (1) from the White House Historical Association, (2) some plans and more photos, and (3) the window visible in some photos of the church on Commons. A book on presidential wives says (4) there is very little info available about her in part because her husband destroyed all his personal papers just before his death, and also some about their families being on opposite sides of the Civil War. Another source (5) about their politics and home life.
Another thing with women from influential families is to look beyond a job title. They may have had a title like "secretary" that women had in those days, but they may have actually been running an agency. I certainly see articles about women getting a lot more drive-by tagging, but it would probably take some research to quantify that. The research department did something not too long ago with gender and BLPs, so maybe we will see some more along those lines. I'm not sure what all the tags (and abbreviations) are for, or what people are supposed to do with them, but I see plenty of people tagging, and nobody doing tag maintenance. How many times do you see a stub tag dating back years, on an article that is clearly not a stub? The strategy with Women in Red has been to create a lot of stubs with the information available, so that when people want to add a reference, they will have an article already created. But there is no strategy for classifying and evaluating articles, and even if there were, where are the people with the skill to work on them? Because nearly everyone who has gotten even close to this topic area has been driven off, most of the articles and edits are being done by trainees. (1) https://www.whitehousehistory.org/nell-arthurs-memorial-window (2) http://stjohns-dc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ST-JOHNS-HISTORIC-STAINED-GLASS-WINDOWS-111615.pdf (3) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:St._John%27s_Episcopal_Church_(Washington,_D.C .) (4) https://books.google.com/books?id=Gn-DVd2kIu8C&pg=PA162&dq=nell+arthur&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3-cP-hq_RAhXJwiYKHcj7Bb0Q6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=nell%20arthur&f=false (5) https://books.google.com/books?id=_v0owy-Xl4sC&pg=PA7&dq=nell+arthur&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3-cP-hq_RAhXJwiYKHcj7Bb0Q6AEILzAD#v=onepage&q=nell%20arthur&f=false On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, in fairness, Nell Arthur was never the U.S. First Lady because she > died before her husband became president. > > On the other hand, anyone can remove a PROD, and based on what's in the > article, it was a good call to do so. A few years ago, I did a bit of > review on the likelihood that something PRODded would actually get deleted, > and about half the time the PROD tags were removed. As I recall, I looked > at about 3-4 days of PRODs so it may not be entirely representative. On the > other hand, on a fair number of occasions the PROD tag was removed without > the core issue being addressed, about 60%. Sometimes the reason was > absurd, but more often it was a justified concern (e.g., absence of > reliable sources for key facts or notability) that was just not addressed. > Only a very small percentage (under 5% as I recall) had the PROD tag > removed and then someone took the article to AfD. > > Risker/Anne > > On 6 January 2017 at 09:52, Johanna-Hypatia Cybeleia < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> It was a bit of a shock to see on Nell Arthur >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nell_Arthur>'s page an imminent threat of >> deletion. I wouldn't have thought an article on a First Lady could be so >> vulnerable. Somebody is claiming that she has no notability just for being >> married to the vice president who became president after her death. It took >> me about 5 minutes to find RS for the fact that she was indeed notable and >> she had everything to do with getting her husband's political career going. >> He could not have accomplished what he did without her. >> >> smh >> >> So I edited that fact in; in fact, I created a new section headed >> "Political career." Now I can remove the deletion threat (just in time >> before the ax falls!), but I became alarmed: Which other articles on women >> are under this threat? OK, I'm biased: I come from the town named after her >> dad. I couldn't just let her slip away. >> >> Below is the text of the notice, one I haven't seen before, and it has an >> alarming red-bordered appearance right up on top of the article, not the >> talk page. >> >> For equality, >> J.Hy >> >> It is *proposed that this article be deleted >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion>* because of >> the following concern: >> >> Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to really be known >> for her marriage to Chester A. Arthur >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_A._Arthur>. No indication of >> meeting WP:Notability (people) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)> at all. >> >> If you can address this concern by improving >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editing_policy>, copyediting >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style>, sourcing >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1> >> , renaming <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page>, or >> merging <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Merging> the page, *please >> edit >> this page >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nell_Arthur&action=edit>* and >> do so. *You may remove this message if you improve the article or >> otherwise object to deletion for any reason*. Although not required, you >> are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your >> edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, *do not >> replace it >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_deletion#Nominating>*. >> >> The article may be deleted if this message remains in place for seven >> days, i.e., after 06:27, 7 January 2017 (UTC). >> If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider >> improving the article so that it is acceptable according to the deletion >> policy <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy>. >> ------------------------------ >> *Nominator:* Please consider notifying the author/project: {{subst >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Substitution>:proposed deletion >> notify <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Proposed_deletion_notify>|Nell >> Arthur|concern=Notability is not inherited, and subject only seems to >> really be known for her marriage to [[Chester A. Arthur]]. No indication of >> meeting [[WP:Notability (people)]] at all.}} ~~~~ >> >> >> -- >> __________________________________ >> I have been woman >> for a long time >> beware my smile >> >> --Audre Lorde >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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