I am extremely, extremely uncomfortable with email moderation. I cannot emphasize this enough. Frankly, I'd rather the NSA be reading my mail than my fellow Wikimedians - they have no actual interest in anything that I'm writing. If moderation became standard, I'd shut off "email this user". It would be a cure far worse than the disease.
It would also be unacceptable for the role accounts that are standard on many projects - on English, we have special role accounts that link directly to the Oversight mailing list, Arbcom, and a few other places. Not only are they moderated by the list owners themselves already, but the contents are usually far more confidential than would be appropriate for a moderator without the same level of access as the list itself. I do like the idea of being able to block emails from certain accounts or to only accept them from certain accounts. Risker/Anne On 12 February 2017 at 08:04, Jonathan Cardy <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Ryan and Chris, I've endorsed the Bethnaught proposal which covers > all of this idea except the email filter bits. I think the privacy issues > of a moderated email stream can be resolved by OTRS style checking of the > moderators. As for the staffing issues I'm optimistic that there are plenty > of people willing to help this sort of issue if we can identify a role for > them. If it does prove difficult to staff we could always make it a service > we limit to people who have had problems and asked for help as opposed to > an option in their email preferences. > > On 9 February 2017 at 22:36, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM, WereSpielChequers < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> ... >>> >>> The first would be to allow editors to set their email to only receive >>> from confirmed or even extended confirmed accounts. This would be invisible >>> to new editors, they'd just not see the *email this user *option for >>> people they weren't entitled to email. >>> >> >> This is a great idea. I wish I had this now. >> >> >>> The second would be an opt in Email moderation service. Similarly to >>> only receiving email from confirmed or extended confirmed accounts, this >>> would enable editors to opt all or parts of their email via the "email this >>> user" function into a moderated stream. Much as with moderated posts to >>> lists like this, a list admin would see the email and either approve it or >>> take other action. You'd presumably need to having something on the send >>> email screen to say that "this editor has opted into email moderation and >>> your email will be delayed slightly before being screened and forwarded" >>> You'd also need a group of volunteers to do the moderation, spot abusive >>> emails and block abusers. >>> >> >> Also a good idea, but I doubt it would be scalable. We have a hard enough >> time finding volunteers to moderate this mailing list, much less, hundreds >> of people's incoming email streams. Plus there would be serious privacy >> issues to worry about. >> >> >>> The third would be an AI driven filter that people could opt into and >>> which would screen emails going through this system and put high risk ones >>> into a moderation queue. >>> >> >> This might be a more workable implementation of the previous idea. >> >> Another idea I've heard would be to let people use email aliases similar >> to Craigslist. That way you could respond to wiki-related emails without >> giving away your actual email address. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> [email protected] >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > [email protected] > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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