'sigh' There's a reason the private addresses of the senders are still displayed on lists like these.
I'd be just as happy if this meeting was open to the general public, let alone the Clickers. I think that would actually be a good thing, even if we let BRLUG people moderate this as some sort of round-table discussion in front of whoever wants to attend. I think unrestricted public Q&A could be a debacle we're not ready to deal with, but I think public attendance would be good. "The Clickers" may or may not even be relevant in that situation, but it would at least be good to have them. -- -j On 11 Oct 2001, Dustin Puryear wrote: > Date: 11 Oct 2001 10:06:25 -0500 > From: Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: BRLUGLIST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [brluglist] possible topic for November meeting: SSSCA? > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 22:44, John Hebert wrote: > > And my reply was to Jerald. I think YOU misunderstood > > my question to Jerald. I was NOT asking for the CCCC > > member's agreement, I was asking Jerald to consider > > the fact that not all CCCC members may consider the > > SSSCA a bad thing, because they may not understand the > > loss of freedoms involved. > > Then wouldn't that make them prime candidates for this meeting? That was > my point. > > > Before you call me out in a public forum, I'd > > appreciate it if you would read and understand my > > message. I did say: > > Jesus.. I was just saying dude. Please don't beat me up! > > Regards, Dustin > > PS Don't think I won't get my mom to kick your ass. > > > > > "Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how > > about we all discuss this in depth, so as to become > > familar with the issue? " > > > > Keyword being _discuss_. > > > > John Hebert > > > > --- Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 17:13, Jerald Sheets wrote: > > > > My whole point is that the congresspersons would > > > be considerably more > > > > likely to listen to the group as a whole given the > > > demographic & > > > > community pull. It had nothing at all to do with > > > "agreeing" with each > > > > other. I was responding directly to Shannon's > > > statement. > > > > > > Uh, Jerald, my reply was to John. Note his email > > > below. Slow down sonny. > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > > --JMS > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 14:55, Dustin Puryear wrote: > > > > > Ok, I obviously misunderstood what you wanted to > > > do. I thought you > > > > > wanted to discuss the SSSCA and DMCA, not just > > > agree with one another > > > > > that the legislation is bad. If that isn't the > > > case then it shouldn't > > > > > matter what the opinion of the Clickers will be. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Dustin > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 15:37, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > > But would all the Clickers agree? Copyright > > > and IP are > > > > > > very fuzzy issues that are widely > > > misunderstood. It is > > > > > > easy for the RIAA and the MPAA to build a case > > > against > > > > > > piracy, as it can be shown to impact their > > > industries. > > > > > > However, the other side of the coin is that > > > open > > > > > > source software would be made illegal, or at > > > least > > > > > > those parts that would implement DRM. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before we ask the CCCC to get involved, how > > > about we > > > > > > all discuss this in depth, so as to become > > > familar > > > > > > with the issue? Let's prepare ourselves before > > > we try > > > > > > to make a big noise with our representatives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I'd really like to have someone > > > knowledgeble > > > > > > speak about IP and copyright law. Does anybody > > > know > > > > > > someone like this? > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Jerald Sheets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well maybe not us by ourselves, but perhaps > > > we > > > > > > > joined with our friends > > > > > > > at the Clickers to request their presence... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 20 vs 2000....I know I'd listen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --JMS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 13:03, Shannon Roddy > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Too bad Breaux or Landrou (sp?) probably > > > would not > > > > > > > take the time to come > > > > > > > > and talk to us. Wee could grill them and > > > see what > > > > > > > they think or if they > > > > > > > > even have enough knowledge to be voting on > > > the > > > > > > > damn thing. I think what > > > > > > > > happens most of the time is that the > > > people making > > > > > > > the laws do not know > > > > > > > > enough about the subject, so the lobbyists > > > win > > > > > > > (like the RIAA, > > > > > > > > Hollywood, etc.). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shannon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2001-10-10 at 12:52, Randy le > > > Jeune wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think it would be a good topic as it > > > concerns > > > > > > > all of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 12:43 > > > PM > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Subject: [brluglist] possible topic for > > > November > > > > > > > meeting: SSSCA? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd like to suggest that we discuss the > > > SSSCA > > > > > > > bill. > > > > > > > > > You can find out more about it at the > > > following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eff.org/alerts/20010921_eff_sssca_alert.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.redhat.com/opensourcenow/article2.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and many other places on the web via > > > Google, > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also wanted to ask if any BRLUG > > > members knew a > > > > > > > > > lawyer or possibly an LSU faculty member > > > > > > > interested in > > > > > > > > > the SSSCA bill and would be willing to > > > speak > > > > > > > about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Hebert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! > > > Personals. > > > > > > > > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > > information. > > > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > > > change > > > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group > > > > > > > > > Visit http://www.brlug.net for more > > > information. > > > > > > > > > Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > > > change > > > > > > > > > your subscription information. > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Shannon Roddy California > > > > > > > Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] LIGO > > > Livingston > > > > > > > Observatory > > > > > > > > ph: (225)686-3106 19100 LIGO > > > Lane > > > > > > > > fx: (225)686-7189 > > > Livingston, LA > > > > > > > 70754 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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